Re: [Tagging] Orange County, California Building and Address Import

[Tod Fitch]

I am beginning to thing you are correct that they intend to make the additional 
information available via RapiD and then assume various mappers will use to add 
data to OSM. I think he RapiD data can be accessed via the “MapWithAI: Download 
Data” mechanism within JOSM. In my part of southern Orange County that data has 
only the Microsoft/Bing at present and does not have address or height data.

If I get confirmation of that they are only preparing for use as additional 
layers within RapiD, then I will go ahead with my own import attempt with the 
next steps being creation of a wiki page and making the announcement here.

—Tod

> On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:11 PM, Alan Mackie  wrote:
> 
> I thought the thing ESRI recently announced was basically additional layers 
> within RapiD, but I may be conflating two separate things.
> 
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 15:53, Tod Fitch  > wrote:
> I became aware that Orange County, California has released building outline 
> and address data to public domain [1] and started prep work for import to 
> OSM. In reading through the import guidelines [2] it seemed the process was:
> 
> 1. Create a workflow (but don’t do any actual importing at this stage).
> 2. Document the workflow in both a dedicated wiki page and in the import 
> catalog [3]
> 3. Announce to the tagging list and the list for the area, in this case 
> talk-us, the proposed import.
> 4. Once comments on the proposed import have been addressed, commence the 
> import (documenting progress along the way).
> 
> To that end, I have reviewed the data. Processed sample portions to the point 
> just short of uploading to OSM to verify I think the workflow is okay.
> 
> This is where I am at present:
> 
> 1. I’ve reviewed the data and decided that a rather slow manual process is 
> needed because of the low quality of the building outlines.
> 2. I’ve created a workflow and tested to the point where I think it will 
> result in a good quality import.
> 3. I’ve created a GitHub project containing the description and scripts I am 
> using [4].
> 4. I started to create a wiki page containing the same description but found 
> an existing import page for the same data [5]
> 
> At this point I am paused and looking for guidance as there is another import 
> proposed for this data. I don’t see evidence that this other import has 
> actually started.
> 
> I have added a discussion item to that import page expressing my concern 
> about building footprint quality and the steps that will be needed to bring 
> it up to standard and given my GitHub project page link.
> 
> But I am confused.
> 
> I thought that imports needed to be added to the catalog. This import is not 
> in the table at present.
> 
> I thought that import specific user IDs were required. This import pages 
> states “The plan is for most OSM mappers to use their standard OSM accounts 
> if they are editing with RapiD and JOSM editors. . .”
> 
> I thought that imports needed to be announced in this import list. Looking 
> though the archives [6] for the last few months, I don’t see it.
> 
> So, do I continue with my import plan with the next step being creating a new 
> wiki page for it? Or do I wait for ERSI to do an import then verify the 
> quality? I don’t see a way to participate with ERSI listed in the import wiki 
> page they’ve created.
> 
> Thanks for the guidance!
> 
> Tod Fitch
> 
> [1] 
> https://data-ocpw.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/8db4b58e6bbf4f6cac676f477348be48_0
>  
> 
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines 
> 
> [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue 
> 
> [4] https://github.com/n76/OSM_OC_Buildings 
> 
> [5] 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Orange_County,_California_Buildings
>  
> 
> [6] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/ 
> 
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Re: [Tagging] Orange County, California Building and Address Import

[Alan Mackie]

I thought the thing ESRI recently announced was basically additional layers
within RapiD, but I may be conflating two separate things.

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 15:53, Tod Fitch  wrote:

> I became aware that Orange County, California has released building
> outline and address data to public domain [1] and started prep work for
> import to OSM. In reading through the import guidelines [2] it seemed the
> process was:
>
> 1. Create a workflow (but don’t do any actual importing at this stage).
> 2. Document the workflow in both a dedicated wiki page and in the import
> catalog [3]
> 3. Announce to the tagging list and the list for the area, in this case
> talk-us, the proposed import.
> 4. Once comments on the proposed import have been addressed, commence the
> import (documenting progress along the way).
>
> To that end, I have reviewed the data. Processed sample portions to the
> point just short of uploading to OSM to verify I think the workflow is okay.
>
> This is where I am at present:
>
> 1. I’ve reviewed the data and decided that a rather slow manual process is
> needed because of the low quality of the building outlines.
> 2. I’ve created a workflow and tested to the point where I think it will
> result in a good quality import.
> 3. I’ve created a GitHub project containing the description and scripts I
> am using [4].
> 4. I started to create a wiki page containing the same description but
> found an existing import page for the same data [5]
>
> At this point I am paused and looking for guidance as there is another
> import proposed for this data. I don’t see evidence that this other import
> has actually started.
>
> I have added a discussion item to that import page expressing my concern
> about building footprint quality and the steps that will be needed to bring
> it up to standard and given my GitHub project page link.
>
> But I am confused.
>
> I thought that imports needed to be added to the catalog. This import is
> not in the table at present.
>
> I thought that import specific user IDs were required. This import pages
> states “The plan is for most OSM mappers to use their standard OSM
> accounts if they are editing with RapiD and JOSM editors. . .”
>
> I thought that imports needed to be announced in this import list. Looking
> though the archives [6] for the last few months, I don’t see it.
>
> So, do I continue with my import plan with the next step being creating a
> new wiki page for it? Or do I wait for ERSI to do an import then verify the
> quality? I don’t see a way to participate with ERSI listed in the import
> wiki page they’ve created.
>
> Thanks for the guidance!
>
> Tod Fitch
>
> [1]
> https://data-ocpw.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/8db4b58e6bbf4f6cac676f477348be48_0
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
> [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue
> [4] https://github.com/n76/OSM_OC_Buildings
> [5]
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Orange_County,_California_Buildings
> [6] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/imports/
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Re: [Tagging] Orange County, California Building and Address Import

[Tod Fitch]

Oops. Sent to wrong email list. Should have been imports. Please disregard.

—Tod

> On Jul 28, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Tod Fitch  wrote:



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