Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-02 Thread Jan Michel
It started as my personal summary of tags, but in the meantime it looks like it got a rather comprehensive summary of current tagging practice. I don't really know where to start cleaning up the Wiki, because this also means to remove some of the existing pages and replace them. I'm happy if

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-02 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
Jan, I see you have done much work on this topic on your page (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Mueschel/DestinationTagging); why didn't you include these informations on the general Wiki pages instead of your user pages? Regards. -- Nouvelle adresse mail : penegal...@protonmail.com S

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-01 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
To Jan Michel (I did not have your mail, as I unsubscribed of the list mails to avoid cluttering my mailbox): the goal of my request is not to assist routing software in finding a route, but to help navigation software to display the destination signs as they are on the ground. If a destination

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-01 Thread Jan Michel
Hi, On 01.08.20 15:48, David Marchal via Tagging wrote: Hm, it seems a smart way to manage such cases; I could add the restrictions on the relation, like hazmat:water=no or maxweight=12. I assume that, in such cases, I must create a destination_sign relation for unrestricted destinations, and

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-01 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
Hm, it seems a smart way to manage such cases; I could add the restrictions on the relation, like hazmat:water=no or maxweight=12. I assume that, in such cases, I must create a destination_sign relation for unrestricted destinations, and one for each destination restriction (if there are several

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 1. Aug 2020, at 11:28, Jan Michel wrote: > > The access tag is 'maxweightrating' like 'maxweight' or 'maxheight'. In the > value of conditional tags there is no 'max' because there we refer to actual > values and not limits. We use 'weight', 'height' and hence also >

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-01 Thread Jan Michel
On 31.07.20 21:07, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 31. Jul 2020, at 18:01, Jan Michel wrote: I'm not familiar with French rules, but is it the actual weight or the allowed total weight of the vehicle that matters? If it's the latter, you can use 'weightrating' instead of 'weight'. shouldn’t th

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-08-01 Thread Andrew Harvey
While you're talking about the destination tag, I think when using a destination_sign relation it's best to apply the mode as eg. bicycle=designated, eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/11345354#map=18/-33.82573/151.21308 for https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/VIq-OPTiw0BVI7gqdLR-iA On Fri, 3

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-07-31 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 31. Jul 2020, at 18:01, Jan Michel wrote: > > I'm not familiar with French rules, but is it the actual weight or the > allowed total weight of the vehicle that matters? If it's the latter, you can > use 'weightrating' instead of 'weight'. shouldn’t that be „maxweight

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-07-31 Thread Jan Michel
Hi David, On 31.07.20 15:53, David Marchal via Tagging wrote: Hello, there. I'm wondering, there are destination signs which only apply to some kind of vehicles: for HGV, for bicycles, for pedestrians, for vehicles below 12t… How would I tag such destinations? The simple way would be to use,

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-07-31 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
No, such restrictions are typically not applied directly on the road indicated by the sign; they are present on other road segments along the indicated route, or may not be present at all, because the road network manager wants to encourage some kinds of vehicles to use a specific route, without

Re: [Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-07-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 8:53 AM David Marchal via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Hello, there. > > I'm wondering, there are destination signs which only apply to some kind > of vehicles: for HGV, for bicycles, for pedestrians, for vehicles below > 12t… How would I tag such destinati

[Tagging] Conditional destinations (hgv, bicycle, maxweight…)

2020-07-31 Thread David Marchal via Tagging
Hello, there. I'm wondering, there are destination signs which only apply to some kind of vehicles: for HGV, for bicycles, for pedestrians, for vehicles below 12t… How would I tag such destinations? The simple way would be to use, respectively, destination:hgv=*, destination:bicycle=*, destinat