Re: [Tagging] Bad tag: demolished=date: move to a) modify, b) strongly discourage

2013-06-28 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Andrew Chadwick (lists) a.t.chadwick+li...@gmail.com wrote: iii. We should not in general be mapping features which are no longer physically relevant. Demolished items by their very nature are not relevant, and are potentially not verifiable. OSM a map of the

Re: [Tagging] Bad tag: demolished=date: move to a) modify, b) strongly discourage

2013-06-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
On 28/giu/2013, at 12:29, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Mmmm...not quite. You're driving home from work. The bridge you normally drive over has been demolished. I'd say that's pretty physically relevant to you right now. And tomorrow. And probably for a few weeks. Maybe months.

Re: [Tagging] Bad tag: demolished=date: move to a) modify, b) strongly discourage

2013-06-28 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
On 28 June 2013 11:29, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Andrew Chadwick (lists) a.t.chadwick+li...@gmail.com wrote: Mmmm...not quite. You're driving home from work. The bridge you normally drive over has been demolished. I'd say that's pretty

Re: [Tagging] Bad tag: demolished=date: move to a) modify, b) strongly discourage

2013-06-28 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
On 28 June 2013 12:04, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: think about stuff like the castle of Berlin, demolished in 1953, the whole city evolved around it for hundreds of years (obviously still noticeable in the urban structure), and when the socialist palace was demolished

[Tagging] Bad tag: demolished=date: move to a) modify, b) strongly discourage

2013-06-27 Thread Andrew Chadwick (lists)
I've just been reminded of the existence of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:demolished which nobody is using very much, and which nobody seems to be maintaining. I hope nobody will start using it, for it seems to me that this tag will generate bad data: i. If an object is demolished,

Re: [Tagging] Bad tag: demolished=date: move to a) modify, b) strongly discourage

2013-06-27 Thread Ole Nielsen
On 27/06/2013 19:23, Andrew Chadwick (lists) wrote: iii. We should not in general be mapping features which are no longer physically relevant. Demolished items by their very nature are not relevant, and are potentially not verifiable. OSM a map of the the world as it is in reality, verifiably

Re: [Tagging] Bad tag: demolished=date: move to a) modify, b) strongly discourage

2013-06-27 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Ole Nielsen on-...@xs4all.nl wrote: Disagree. There are reasons to keep objects in the DB after they have ceased to exist. Objects deleted in OSM are not deleted in the database. And like disused=yes, it is a mistake to believe that all data consumers will