Re: [Tagging] Barrier defaults
On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:35:45AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > explicit access tagging for barriers is generally preferable because > it reduces the uncertainty. > > Still if there is a barrier and no access tags are set you will have > to figure out how to deal with it. > > For bollards I agree it is likely that pedestrians can pass. For other > barriers like gates or even ropes/chains, it will not be possible > without access tags to understand when you can pass, even as a > pedestrian. I dont like rules with too many exceptions - thats the point. I agree that bollards are a little obvious as a pedestrian will most likely be able to pass. But for the sake of simplicity i would rather call for only explicit tagging so people can process barriers whatever they are called - No if/then/else/otherwise/maybe spaghetti in all data consumers. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de UTF-8 Test: The ran after a , but the ran away signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Barrier defaults
sent from a phone > On 26. Sep 2019, at 10:01, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Now i discovery the contrary. Every data consumer has to make > a long list of every barrier possible and the default settings. > > Does that make sense? explicit access tagging for barriers is generally preferable because it reduces the uncertainty. Still if there is a barrier and no access tags are set you will have to figure out how to deal with it. For bollards I agree it is likely that pedestrians can pass. For other barriers like gates or even ropes/chains, it will not be possible without access tags to understand when you can pass, even as a pedestrian. Cheers Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Barrier defaults
Hi, i stumbled upon a statement in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:barrier that barrier=bollard has implicit foot=yes bicycle=yes on it. I have been mapping only explicit restrictions for 10 years and the English page (where the German should be a translation from) does not mention this specifically. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:barrier The Page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dbollard mentions this though. I was under the impression that data consumers may ignore the value for the barrier key as the access restrictions will alway be explicit. Now i discovery the contrary. Every data consumer has to make a long list of every barrier possible and the default settings. Does that make sense? Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de UTF-8 Test: The ran after a , but the ran away signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
