Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-25 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-04-24 at 21:46:35 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/24/2012 2:13 PM, Alex Barth wrote: Pieren - thanks for pointing out that area=yes is highway only. How could the documentation for it be clearer [1]? It's not highway only. For example, it can be used on railway=platform:

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-25 Thread Georg Feddern
Am 25.04.2012 08:58, schrieb Elena ``of Valhalla'': On 2012-04-24 at 21:46:35 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 4/24/2012 2:13 PM, Alex Barth wrote: Pieren - thanks for pointing out that area=yes is highway only. How could the documentation for it be clearer [1]? It's not highway only. For

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 25. April 2012 12:25 schrieb Georg Feddern o...@bavarianmallet.de: as far as I know and always have considered, that is the meaning in _all_ cases - because area was invented to differentiate between the linear and area meaning of a tag, if it is ambiguous. And it is documented - at least

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-25 Thread Georg Feddern
Am 25.04.2012 12:29, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: -1, place=locality shouldn't be used here, because according to the wiki it is not to be used for settlements or parts of them Objection granted! I abandon this question, Your Honour! ;-) ___

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Michael Krämer
Am 24. April 2012 00:56 schrieb Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com: - Any previous discussions or existing practices I should be reading up on? Brasilia is not the only place where block names are used instead of street names. To my knowledge, other examples are some parts of Sofia/Bulgaria (I see

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Alex Barth We had a similar discussion from a contributor working in Peru and their cuadra system. My proposal was to create a new tag addr:block (+ a name or a number) which could be attached on a parallel way along the street (like the addr:interpolation). But

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/4/24 Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com - draw blocks as polygons - tag with `landuse=residential` or `landuse=commercial` - name with block number I don't like the landuse tag for this purpose. There could be two landuses on one block, there could be an empty block with no landuse but with a

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Andrew Errington
What do they do in Japan? Japan has a block-oriented addressing system. I don't know how this is implemented in OSM, but maybe it can be used in Brasilia. Best wishes, Andrew ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Alex Barth
Interesting. Mannheim uses for a block named C2: area=yes name=C2 On Apr 24, 2012, at 2:57 AM, Michael Krämer wrote: Am 24. April 2012 00:56 schrieb Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com: - Any previous discussions or existing practices I should be reading up on? Brasilia is not the only place where

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Alex Barth
I think I've seen the addr:block proposal (what's the link?) My understanding is that addr: fields would be attached to entities that are actually being addressed, i. e. buildings. Is this correct? That said. addr:block would indeed be useful for addresses on buildings in Brasilia. On Apr

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Alex Barth
I see your point. While Brasilia has indeed in many places single purpose blocks, this is likely not the case in all cities. However, place=neighbourhood is misleading as there are many blocks in a neighbourhood. I'm liking the `area=yes` as seen in Mannheim [1] better than

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Alex Barth
Thanks - any links? A quick look at Salt Lake City gives me street names. On Apr 23, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Apr 23, 2012 3:57 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: Brasilia and its satellites do not use street names, but an elaborate block numbering system. Before

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: I'm liking the `area=yes` as seen in Mannheim [1] better than `place=neighbourhood`. Thoughts? Oh no, please. area=yes has been created to distinguish highway loops and highway areas. For me, a tag area=yes not combined with a

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 24. April 2012 16:04 schrieb Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com: I see your point. While Brasilia has indeed in many places single purpose blocks, this is likely not the case in all cities. However, place=neighbourhood is misleading as there are many blocks in a neighbourhood. if neighbourhood

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Pieren
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: if neighbourhood is missleading, you could invent a place=block below neighbourhood. neighbourhood seems to be interpreted differently in different cultural backgrounds. Personally I always saw it as a

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Alex Barth
Pieren - thanks for pointing out that area=yes is highway only. How could the documentation for it be clearer [1]? Seems to me then that starting to use a value block for the place [2] key would be an appropriate solution. Examples: So for a block QNB12 in Brasilia, the tagging would be:

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Sander Deryckere
Op 24 april 2012 16:44 schreef Pieren pier...@gmail.com het volgende: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: if neighbourhood is missleading, you could invent a place=block below neighbourhood. neighbourhood seems to be interpreted differently in

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 4/24/2012 2:13 PM, Alex Barth wrote: Pieren - thanks for pointing out that area=yes is highway only. How could the documentation for it be clearer [1]? It's not highway only. For example, it can be used on railway=platform: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/94063273 or

[Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-23 Thread Alex Barth
Last week we've done some walking papers work in Brasilia and there are now some questions on how to enter data. Brasilia and its satellites do not use street names, but an elaborate block numbering system. Before we start entering data, I'd like to propose a proper way to enter blocks.

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Apr 23, 2012 3:57 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: Brasilia and its satellites do not use street names, but an elaborate block numbering system. Before we start entering data, I'd like to propose a proper way to enter blocks. I would strongly consider taking a look at towns and cities