Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-25 Thread Pieren
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: what about landmark=yes? But I understand that many landmarks will not interest seamen. So it is important for them to have a special indicator saying this is a landmark for seamen. But where I don't agree is to

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-25 Thread Andreas Labres
On 24.11.12 20:59, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about landmark=yes? IMO it should read maritime_landmark=yes to indicate, that this tower or building or quary or whatever is a landmark that is suitable for maritime navigation. This key can then be used for a maritime map to decide whether to

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-24 Thread Georg Feddern
Hi, Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with the SeaMap, I'm just a coast dweller. Am 23.11.2012 11:48, schrieb Frederik Ramm: True - a cemetery is a cemetery and whether or not cemeteries are used as landmarks by seamen doesn't change that. I do not see, that the seamark:xxx=cemetery will

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/23 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: If you call: landuse=cemetery + landmark=cemetery + seamark=landmark + seamark:type=landmark + seamark:landmark:category = cemetery not duplicates, I don't know what you need more for duplicates ;-) +1 what about landmark=yes? I find it strange too, that

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-23 Thread Malcolm Herring
Any tag whose key is in the form seamark: is from the OpenSeaMap tagging scheme. Landmarks that bear these tags are features that can be seen from the sea or river and can be usefully used for navigational purposes. This is additional information, not duplicate information, so they may

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-23 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com wrote: This is additional information, not duplicate information, so they may well co-exist with the conventional OSM tags for whatever type of map feature the object is. If you call: landuse=cemetery +

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-23 Thread Malcolm Herring
On 23/11/2012 10:24, Pieren wrote: landuse=cemetery + landmark=cemetery + seamark=landmark + seamark:type=landmark + seamark:landmark:category = cemetery As I said, those latter two tags would only appear on cemeteries that can be seen from the water and can be used as navigational markers.

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/23/2012 11:24 AM, Pieren wrote: As I said, a simple landmark tag is enough. It does not need to specifiy again it is a cemetery when we can combine it with already existing OSM tags (like the landuse=cemetery). The tag can be seamark = landmark or seamark:type=landmark, I don't care.

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-23 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 11/23/2012 11:48 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: We have bothered much about that as long as OpenSeaMap tagged offshore haven't Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
Does something qualify as a seamark if it is visible from the sea? Maybe a visible_from_sea=yes is enough? Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-23 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: I have a suspicion that this duplication of tags is largely the result of OpenSeaMap trying to opt out of the rest of the community - if we use our own namespace then we don't have to discuss with those landlubbers. We have not bothered much about that as long as

[Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-22 Thread Pieren
Hi all, By accident, I found the tag landmark=cemetery on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landmark%3Dcemetery Then discovered that 9 cemeteries are tagged with landuse=cemetery + landmark=cemetery. Some have even an additionnal seamark:type = landmark :