On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 11:30, John Doe <music.kash...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is quite off-topic, but I can't bear to read more completely > unfounded criticism of PTv2. > > I hereby declare that I find the old tags to be a complete abomination (Is > it on the way? Is it beside the way? Is it a stop, a platform, a halt, a > station? Why is a platform or a bus stop a railway or a highway?), and PTv2 > tags to be very consistent and comprehensible in comparison. Indeed, this > thread has motivated me to stop using legacy tags entirely - to hell with > Carto and other legacy consumers. > So it's better to label them all as platforms? I can't see any raised area in a typical bus stop: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.47054299999999&lng=-2.237589000000071&z=17&pKey=sHRXz6nnNKdV1u_AFXAjJw&mapStyle=OpenStreetMap&focus=photo Why would we tag it as if it looks like this? https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.48198622803868&lng=-2.2391616517737676&z=17&mapStyle=OpenStreetMap&pKey=-yZ4kkeVica0Kcmnd-TotA&focus=photo The section for buses on the main public transport page says: "If there is no real platform ... the location of the bus stop sign ... gets ... public_transport=platform. " I.E. If there is no platform, make one up. How is that more logical than highway=bus_stop for "there is a bus stop here"? As for 'why is a bus stop a highway' do you also suggest we scrap the tagging for traffic lights, road signs, crosswalks etc. etc? If tram stops (as described on the wiki) are accessible from both sides and > it makes sense to put them on the way, then PTv2 is very much justified in > creating an umbrella tag for stops which are placed on the way. I don't > understand why the critics of PTv2 seem to think stop positions are such a > big deal - they are optional! > They are largely imaginary for most types of transport. Most public transport experiences centre around where the people stand not when the driver slams on the brakes. > Platforms are where passengers wait. > Stations are places with many platforms. > Stop positions are where vehicles stop - an optional alternative to using > platforms, included for backward-compatibility. > And the feature is not confounded with the vehicle that serves it, nor the > infrastructure provided. A platform is a platform regardless of shelter, > bench, or tactile paving. > A platform is a platform, a perfectly flat bit of sidewalk isn't.
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