Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-15 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 6/14/19 5:49 PM, marc marc wrote: > I think the proposals for a new tag should clearly say: > - add such tag > - edit the old tag description to point the new tag > - write to editors to adapt presets > - propose a mecanical edit, if necessary by splitting it up > to avoid a global

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Warin
On 15/06/19 08:57, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Some people disapprove of editing a database object without checking if it still exists, because an edit implies that you have confirmed that the information about the feature is still correct. I usually check on a web page, most of them have a

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Some people disapprove of editing a database object without checking if it still exists, because an edit implies that you have confirmed that the information about the feature is still correct. Back to the original question: should diplomatic=honorary_consulate and the related tags be marked as

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread marc marc
Le 14.06.19 à 21:26, Lionel Giard a écrit : > we need an human review I wonder what the added value to make a human review for changing diplomatic=honorary_consulate into diplomatic=consulate + consulate=honorary_consulate of course, some may be wrong, but this has nothing to do with the tag

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 05:30, Lionel Giard wrote: > So it will change with time and become more and more prevalent, but it > takes time. We could always makes some sort of challenge by country to > check the embassy/consulate/... to speed things up. > Wouldn't / shouldn't the name show what it

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Lionel Giard
The editor presets are already changed (so any modification or new creation of embassy, consulate or liaison use the new tagging scheme). The number of diplomatic=* tag compared to the number of office=* tag is due to the fact that the "diplomatic"=* tag was already existing but used slightly

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread marc marc
Le 14.06.19 à 15:10, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > we should be very reluctant to mark tags as deprecated (i.e. it > should happen after their usage significantly dropped in French we say "c'est le chat qui se mord la queue" tag use changes little as long as presets do not change. presets

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 14. Juni 2019 um 13:40 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > Right. > > By "deprecated" this is what I mean: should the wiki pages be changed > to make it clear that diplomatic=honorary_consulate is no longer > preferred, and could be changed to

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Right. By "deprecated" this is what I mean: should the wiki pages be changed to make it clear that diplomatic=honorary_consulate is no longer preferred, and could be changed to diplomatic=consulate + consulate=honorary_consulate ? On 6/14/19, Lionel Giard wrote: > I think that the only

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Lionel Giard
I think that the only deprecated tag in the accepted proposal is "amenity=embassy" (which is indicated on the wiki page too). The wrong diplomatic value are just what old tagging scheme lead to. It doesn't need to be deprecated to me as it never existed officially (i think) - and it will probably

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Warin
On 14/06/19 20:06, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I was checking the pages related to the office=diplomatic proposal, which approved the tags diplomatic=embassy, diplomatic=consulate and diplomatic=liaison - I just made pages for these 3 tags and added =liaison to the key:diplomatic page. Based on the

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, in general, I try to avoid marking anything as deprecated. I think the term only gives people wrong ideas. If anything, try to find wording that says "today, most mappers prefer the X tag", but don't say "this tag is deprecated" except in very clear circumstances, where an overwhelming

[Tagging] Deprecation of non-approved values for diplomatic=?

2019-06-14 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
I was checking the pages related to the office=diplomatic proposal, which approved the tags diplomatic=embassy, diplomatic=consulate and diplomatic=liaison - I just made pages for these 3 tags and added =liaison to the key:diplomatic page. Based on the proposal, I suspect that the other values