Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-07 Thread Warin

On 08/08/18 01:35, Eric H. Christensen wrote:

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On August 7, 2018 11:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:

On 6. Aug 2018, at 06:30, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
And it might be better to place it directly in the emergency key?
Say emergency=evacuation_route??? Humm emergency says it is not for relations. 
Arr well.

I think there shouldn’t be “relations” at all as category for objects to which 
a tag can apply. Nodes, ways (linear), areas (ways) would seem sufficient for 
that. Relations can be set to unknown for everything ;-)

The relation category is misleading anyway because it doesn’t include 
multipolygon relations, and nobody knows what kind of relation will be invented 
or is already used that creates all kind of geometric thing where a tag could 
apply to or not.

I'm not certain of all the categories.  I'm envisioning this being more like an 
overlay route like what is used for bicycle routes and bus routes and the like. 
 What are those?

Eric


Those are a relation, type route ...

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route



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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-07 Thread Eric H. Christensen
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On August 7, 2018 11:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer  wrote:
> > On 6. Aug 2018, at 06:30, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
> > And it might be better to place it directly in the emergency key?
> > Say emergency=evacuation_route??? Humm emergency says it is not for 
> > relations. Arr well.
>
> I think there shouldn’t be “relations” at all as category for objects to 
> which a tag can apply. Nodes, ways (linear), areas (ways) would seem 
> sufficient for that. Relations can be set to unknown for everything ;-)
>
> The relation category is misleading anyway because it doesn’t include 
> multipolygon relations, and nobody knows what kind of relation will be 
> invented or is already used that creates all kind of geometric thing where a 
> tag could apply to or not.

I'm not certain of all the categories.  I'm envisioning this being more like an 
overlay route like what is used for bicycle routes and bus routes and the like. 
 What are those?

Eric
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-07 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


sent from a phone

> On 6. Aug 2018, at 06:30, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> And it might be better to place it directly in the emergency key?
> Say emergency=evacuation_route??? Humm emergency says it is not for 
> relations. Arr well.


I think there shouldn’t be “relations” at all as category for objects to which 
a tag can apply. Nodes, ways (linear), areas (ways) would seem sufficient for 
that. Relations can be set to unknown for everything ;-)

The relation category is misleading anyway because it doesn’t include 
multipolygon relations, and nobody knows what kind of relation will be invented 
or is already used that creates all kind of geometric thing where a tag could 
apply to or not.

Cheers,
Martin 
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-06 Thread Eric H. Christensen
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On August 6, 2018 2:02 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 06/08/18 15:27, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
>
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> > On August 6, 2018 12:30 AM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > I'd think this should be a relation - not a way.
> > > At the moment the proposals says it is only a way.
> > > And it might be better to place it directly in the emergency key?
> > > Say emergency=evacuation_route??? Humm emergency says it is not for 
> > > relations. Arr well.
> > > We went down this path, I think, last summer. The expectation is that 
> > > these route made up of roads. I'm not sure why one would include a node 
> > > in this. This is likely going to be part of the emergency project but 
> > > probably not the emergency key which isn't really for routes.
>
> I have not mentioned 'nodes'.
> On the proposal page - in edit mode there is:
> {{Proposal_Page
> |name = Evacuation Route
> |user = Sparks
> |key = evacuation_route
> |value = *
> |type = {{IconWay}}
>
> The type should be {{IconRelation}} not {{IconWay}}.
> As it is with {{IconWay}} there will need to be new ways created for the 
> evacuation route
> rather than use the existing ways that are roads/paths etc as members in a 
> relation.
>
> And I would think there need to be rules for the relation, for example;
> start at one end and have each member/way in sequence to the finish, the 
> finish might be required to be in/near the 'safe place'.
> This would save the forwards backwards thing, just like in Public transport 
> v2.

Ahh, yes, sorry, I see what you're talking about now.


> > > Rendering... yes .. a rendering for emergency use would be good.
> > > Possibly this can be done for small areas rather than the world.
> > > Emergency evacuation centres, routes etc.
> > > I'm not sure I understand this. I suspect these types of routes are 
> > > preplanned in many different countries.
>
> Yes. But I'm thinking of the rendering. I think that would be done for local 
> areas, not the entire world.

Yeah, this would definitely be more smaller areas (towns, regions, states, 
islands).
>
> > > Evacuation routes may also be made for other things .. e.g. fire .. so 
> > > I'd add a '/*' at the end to accommodate things we have not though about.
> > > Even if you create a route for a fire, and I'm assuming you're talking 
> > > about a building fire, you'd be showing routes inside of a building which 
> > > would require ways. I don't think the existing proposal would prevent 
> > > someone from expanding to such things but I'm trying to tackle the 
> > > problem of evacuation routes along roads that have been preplanned for 
> > > emergencies and disasters.
>
> Wrong kind of fire .. though those too might one day be mapped.
> But I mean forest fires/wild fires/bushfires depending on what part of the 
> world your from.
> But I would tag them as 'fire' rather than do all the different ways that 
> people refer to them.
> I'd still add the '/*' to it. Just in case.

Oh sure.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-06 Thread Tod Fitch
In my area there are signed routes for tsunami evacuation. Very unlikely that 
they will change for an individual event. And the are ground verifiable as they 
are signed. I think these can and should be mapped in OSM.

There are also wildfire prone areas near by. Evacuations from those are ad hoc. 
They vary from incident to incident and are unsigned. I don't believe these can 
or should be added to OSM.


On August 6, 2018 11:55:18 AM GMT+05:45, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
 wrote:
>One thing that concerns me a little bit with marking evacuation routes
>is
>what happens if the normal route is changed for "this" emergency? - you
>usually drive North to reach here, but this time, due to unusual
>circumstances, we need you to drive West towards there.
>
>Or am I being *too* paranoid? :-)
>
>Thanks
>
>Graeme

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-06 Thread Erkin Alp Güney
OpenEmergencyMap?


06-08-2018 09:19 tarihinde Warin yazdı:

>
> I think it is 'plan a' that some committee comes up with.
> Some times they work.
> But what happens in a 'real emergency' may not reflect the plan (a, b,
> c or etc)
>
> Best if the people on the ground don't panic and think.
> If your already paranoid then you'll have various plans.
> I have little choice in my fire evacuation.
>
> Just got in the letter box a planed hazard reduction burn on the 8
> August.
> Not much notification .. but it is the first one here in decades, so
> I'm more than happy it is happening (I hope).  

Yours, faithfully
Erkin Alp


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-06 Thread Warin

On 06/08/18 16:10, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
One thing that concerns me a little bit with marking evacuation routes 
is what happens if the normal route is changed for "this" emergency? - 
you usually drive North to reach here, but this time, due to unusual 
circumstances, we need you to drive West towards there.


Or am I being /too/ paranoid? :-)


I think it is 'plan a' that some committee comes up with.
Some times they work.
But what happens in a 'real emergency' may not reflect the plan (a, b, c 
or etc)


Best if the people on the ground don't panic and think.
If your already paranoid then you'll have various plans.
I have little choice in my fire evacuation.

Just got in the letter box a planed hazard reduction burn on the 8 August.
Not much notification .. but it is the first one here in decades, so I'm 
more than happy it is happening (I hope).


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-06 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
One thing that concerns me a little bit with marking evacuation routes is
what happens if the normal route is changed for "this" emergency? - you
usually drive North to reach here, but this time, due to unusual
circumstances, we need you to drive West towards there.

Or am I being *too* paranoid? :-)

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-06 Thread Warin

On 06/08/18 15:27, Eric H. Christensen wrote:

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On August 6, 2018 12:30 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:


I'd think this should be a relation - not a way.
At the moment the proposals says it is only a way.

And it might be better to place it directly in the emergency key?
Say emergency=evacuation_route??? Humm emergency says it is not for relations. 
Arr well.

We went down this path, I think, last summer.  The expectation is that these 
route made up of roads.  I'm not sure why one would include a node in this.  
This is likely going to be part of the emergency project but probably not the 
emergency key which isn't really for routes.


I have not mentioned 'nodes'.
On the proposal page - in edit mode there is:
{{Proposal_Page
|name = Evacuation Route
|user = Sparks
|key = evacuation_route
|value = *
|type = {{IconWay}}

The type should be {{IconRelation}} not {{IconWay}}.
As  it is with {{IconWay}} there will need to be new ways created for the 
evacuation route
rather than use the existing ways that are roads/paths etc as members in a 
relation.

And I would think there need to be rules for the relation, for example;
start at one end and have each member/way in sequence to the finish, the finish 
might be required to be in/near the 'safe place'.
This would save the forwards backwards thing, just like in Public transport v2.




Rendering... yes .. a rendering for emergency use would be good.
Possibly this can be done for small areas rather than the world.
Emergency evacuation centres, routes etc.

I'm not sure I understand this.  I suspect these types of routes are preplanned 
in many different countries.


Yes. But I'm thinking of the rendering. I think that would be done for local 
areas, not the entire world.




Evacuation routes may also be made for other things .. e.g. fire .. so I'd add 
a '/*' at the end to accommodate things we have not though about.

Even if you create a route for a fire, and I'm assuming you're talking about a 
building fire, you'd be showing routes inside of a building which would require 
ways.  I don't think the existing proposal would prevent someone from expanding 
to such things *but* I'm trying to tackle the problem of evacuation routes 
along roads that have been preplanned for emergencies and disasters.


Wrong kind of fire .. though those too might one day be mapped.
But I mean forest fires/wild fires/bushfires depending on what part of the 
world your from.
But I would tag them as 'fire' rather than do all the different ways that 
people refer to them.
I'd still add the '/*' to it. Just in case.


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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-05 Thread Eric H. Christensen
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On August 6, 2018 12:30 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd think this should be a relation - not a way.
> At the moment the proposals says it is only a way.
>
> And it might be better to place it directly in the emergency key?
> Say emergency=evacuation_route??? Humm emergency says it is not for 
> relations. Arr well.

We went down this path, I think, last summer.  The expectation is that these 
route made up of roads.  I'm not sure why one would include a node in this.  
This is likely going to be part of the emergency project but probably not the 
emergency key which isn't really for routes.

> Rendering... yes .. a rendering for emergency use would be good.
> Possibly this can be done for small areas rather than the world.
> Emergency evacuation centres, routes etc.

I'm not sure I understand this.  I suspect these types of routes are preplanned 
in many different countries.

> Evacuation routes may also be made for other things .. e.g. fire .. so I'd 
> add a '/*' at the end to accommodate things we have not though about.

Even if you create a route for a fire, and I'm assuming you're talking about a 
building fire, you'd be showing routes inside of a building which would require 
ways.  I don't think the existing proposal would prevent someone from expanding 
to such things *but* I'm trying to tackle the problem of evacuation routes 
along roads that have been preplanned for emergencies and disasters.

Eric
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-05 Thread Warin

I'd think this should be a relation - not a way.
At the moment the proposals says it is only a way.

And it might be better to place it directly in the emergency key?
Say emergency=evacuation_route??? Humm emergency says it is not for relations. 
Arr well.

Rendering... yes .. a rendering for emergency use would be good.
Possibly this can be done for small areas rather than the world.
Emergency evacuation centres, routes etc.

Evacuation routes may also be made for other things .. e.g. fire .. so I'd add 
a '/*' at the end to accommodate things we have not though about.


On 06/08/18 12:25, Eric H. Christensen wrote:

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Last year I made a feature proposal[0] last year regarding evacuation routes.  
There were a couple of recommended changes to the RFC[1] and while I agreed 
with them I 1) failed to make them and 2) got side tracked on a couple of other 
initiatives.  Now that it's hurricane season, again, here in the Eastern U.S. 
I've come back to this and am hoping to get this completed this time.

I've changed this from being a key to being a route, which makes better sense.  
Does anyone see any other changes that need to be made or can we go ahead with 
a vote?

Thanks,
Eric

[0] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-September/033340.html
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Evacuation_routes



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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-05 Thread Eric H. Christensen
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Last year I made a feature proposal[0] last year regarding evacuation routes.  
There were a couple of recommended changes to the RFC[1] and while I agreed 
with them I 1) failed to make them and 2) got side tracked on a couple of other 
initiatives.  Now that it's hurricane season, again, here in the Eastern U.S. 
I've come back to this and am hoping to get this completed this time.

I've changed this from being a key to being a route, which makes better sense.  
Does anyone see any other changes that need to be made or can we go ahead with 
a vote?

Thanks,
Eric

[0] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2017-September/033340.html
[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Evacuation_routes
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2017-09-08 Thread Eric Christensen
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On 09/07/2017 10:53 PM, Nick Hocking wrote:
> Will this proposal contain alternate evacuation routes, and an
> indication by whom and when they would be activated?

If the state/local authorities have designated a route as an evacuation
route then I don't see why the route wouldn't be put into OSM.

Generally speaking, an evacuation route isn't the *only* way out of a
location but, rather, is the recommended way out that avoids hazards
(flooding, etc) and is usually a large thoroughfare, so it's not
imperative that there be a "when" assigned to a route.

With respect to Google, I think they are using their traffic load
monitoring to try to divert traffic from one route to the other to help
balance the load.  This is one feature I wish our tools (maps.me,
OSMAND, etc) had.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2017-09-08 Thread Eric Christensen
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On 09/08/2017 05:05 AM, Lukas Sommer wrote:
> As key:evacuation_route is currently almost exclusively used on
> relations anyway, it might make more sense to deprecate this tag and
> instead define a new value for route=* on type=route relations (and
> than add all the refinements that you propose)…

Dang, yes.  Sorry, what you just said reminded me of what I had thought
many months ago.  With a route you can make them directional which is
important.  I'll make those changes today.

- --Eric
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2017-09-08 Thread Lukas Sommer
As key:evacuation_route is currently almost exclusively used on
relations anyway, it might make more sense to deprecate this tag and
instead define a new value for route=* on type=route relations (and
than add all the refinements that you propose)…

-- 
Lukas Sommer

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2017-09-07 Thread Nick Hocking
Hi Eric,

I noticed that in one of the briefings , the Govoner of Florida mentioned
that Goggle was going to dynamically change their "evacuation routes",
should one become unavailable.

Will this proposal contain alternate evacuation routes, and an indication
by whom and when they would be activated?
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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2017-09-07 Thread Eric Christensen
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https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Evacuation_routes

Emergency evacuation routes, with direction, for various types of
emergencies.

Thanks,
Eric "Sparks"
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