On 10/07/2020 16.38, Jarek Piórkowski wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 15:53, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
[problem description elided; see archives]
Yeah that's a problem. But since OSM would have to be changed to add
junction=intersection tags anyway, isn't it better to use the
established method of
> On Jul 10, 2020, at 9:26 AM, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>
> On 10/07/2020 11.24, Peter Elderson wrote:
>> Well, if you do a couple of intersections it's no big deal, but if every
>> intersection would need this and it breaks relations, no matter whose fault
>> it is, it is a problem. Then it's
sent from a phone
> On 10. Jul 2020, at 21:52, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>
> I have to strongly disagree. Consider an intersection of dual carriageways
> (so, four intersection nodes) where signals are tagged on the intersection
> nodes.
that’s the problem, they should not be tagged on the
On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 15:53, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> On 10/07/2020 15.01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >> On 10. Jul 2020, at 16:17, Matthew Woehlke
> >> wrote:
> >> My use case isn't the only one that has issues with this sort of
> >> thing; routers can "see" more traffic lights than
On 10/07/2020 15.01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
On 10. Jul 2020, at 16:17, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
My use case isn't the only one that has issues with this sort of
thing; routers can "see" more traffic lights than actually exist
and can (so I hear, anyway) give directions that are potentially
sent from a phone
> On 10. Jul 2020, at 16:17, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>
> My use case isn't the only one that has issues with this sort of thing;
> routers can "see" more traffic lights than actually exist and can (so I hear,
> anyway) give directions that are potentially confusing.
this
For illustrative purposes, I went ahead and tagged
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/175473372. (I chose this intersection
because the way was already split, so the only edit needed was to add
the tag.)
On 10/07/2020 10.15, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
As some of you may recall, I'm working on a
On 10/07/2020 12.57, Tod Fitch wrote:
In the old days the wiki said you could put a highway=stop or
highway=give_way node on a way and the data consumer would determine
the nearest intersection and just do the right thing. I mapped
several thousand, yes thousand, stop signs that way. Later it
On 10/07/2020 12.22, Clifford Snow wrote:
Interesting suggestion. The sumo github page doesn't appear to have any
open issues that involve OSM and intersections that I could find. (I only
looked at intersection issue titles) Has this been reported to the sumo
developers? Sumo documentation does
On 10/07/2020 11.24, Peter Elderson wrote:
Well, if you do a couple of intersections it's no big deal, but if every
intersection would need this and it breaks relations, no matter whose fault
it is, it is a problem. Then it's not just modeling, but forced repair
work.
Sure, but my point was
Matthew,
Interesting suggestion. The sumo github page doesn't appear to have any
open issues that involve OSM and intersections that I could find. (I only
looked at intersection issue titles) Has this been reported to the sumo
developers? Sumo documentation does suggest fixing OSM issues but other
Well, if you do a couple of intersections it's no big deal, but if every
intersection would need this and it breaks relations, no matter whose fault
it is, it is a problem. Then it's not just modeling, but forced repair
work. May be worth it, but I would like to know that at proposal time, not
by
On 10/07/2020 10.36, Peter Elderson wrote:
Question: does it break anything? I am thinking about existing relations of
various kinds.
If splitting ways breaks relations, well, a) that's an editor problem,
and b) I've already been breaking those left and right from splitting
ways to improve
Question: does it break anything? I am thinking about existing relations of
various kinds.
Best, Peter Elderson
Op vr 10 jul. 2020 om 16:17 schreef Matthew Woehlke <
mwoehlke.fl...@gmail.com>:
> As some of you may recall, I'm working on a project to do traffic
> simulation with the help of OSM
As some of you may recall, I'm working on a project to do traffic
simulation with the help of OSM data and SUMO¹.
One of the issues that SUMO has is that the typical method of modeling
intersections (which I don't propose to change, mostly) results in SUMO
thinking there are multiple
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