Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - use_sideway (was bicycle=use_cycleway)

2014-03-21 Thread Pee Wee
We followed Pieren's advice on the Talk
pagehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/use_sidewayand
made the proposal
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/use_sidewaymuch
shorter.  This focuses on making clear what the proposal is and not so much
on our arguments. For those that are interested in our arguments we've made
a   sub 
pagehttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/use_sideway_arguments
including our comment on last proposal. Hope this helps.

With regard to Matthijs his question I can say that in yesterday's
newspaper (algemeen dagblad)  I read that NL has 35.000 KM of cycleways.

Not sure why Matthijs qoute's the no backward compatibility to the
existing bicycle=no (in e.g. NL) .  We've commented on that in the
proposal (which has moved to the subpage)

Cheers

PeeWee32


2014-03-17 0:07 GMT+01:00 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl:

 On 16 March 2014 17:34, Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com wrote:
  Last november we proposed the bicycle=use_cycleway.  There was a lot of
  discussion before and during voting. The voting was very close but we
  decided to reject the proposal and work on a new one.

 | no backward compatibility to the existing bicycle=no (in e.g. NL)

 Just curious: can anyone find out how many percent of the ways with
 highway=cyclepath are located in the Netherlands? It seems Tagwatch
 doesn't exist anymore, so I don't really know how to get these data.

 -- Matthijs

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - use_sideway (was bicycle=use_cycleway)

2014-03-16 Thread Pee Wee
This is an RFC for a new value:
use_sidewayhttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/use_sideway.
(which is an access value)

Last november we proposed the
bicycle=use_cyclewayhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle_use_cycleway.
There was a lot of discussion before
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-November/015592.htmland
duringhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Bicycle_use_cyclewayvoting.
The voting was very close but we decided to reject the proposal and
work on a new one.

We think we've now made a better
proposahttps://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/use_sidewayl
(use_sideway) with more emphasis on the access issue and some more examples
with regard to routing.

Cheers
Masi Master and PeeWee32
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