[Tagging] GNC (General Nutrition Centers) - variety of shop tag values

2013-01-06 Thread dies38061
I wanted to tag a GNC franchise outlet in the United States and wasn't quite 
sure what value to use for the shop key.  I find that I'm not alone.  Using 
OpenLinkMap, I identified most of the current GNC outlets mapped in the US and 
recorded the key:shop values ... all of the variants appeared once; if more 
than once, the number is in parentheses:

shop=vitamin
shop=vitamins
shop=nutrition
shop=Health
shop=health
shop=herbalist (3)
shop=yes (2)
shop=pharmacy
shop=doityourself
(no shop tag) (2)

Depending how you look at it, this is either a healthy reflection of the 
ability to tag anything with anything, or an indicator of the current anarchic 
state of tagging :-) (the number found is also an indicator of the % coverage 
for chain shops in general ... there are 6000 GNC stores in the United States)

Be that as it may, and allowing for variation from store to store, I'm 
wondering if it might not be useful to identify a base tag value for shop 
chains, allowing for additional values to be added if a particular location 
varies from the chain template.  Looking at the wikipedia article, GNC 
(store), the informative categories used are health food stores and 
nutrition.  Looking in TagInfo shows that the value health_food is 
available for key:shop at about rank 170 with 57 uses; nutrition shows up as 
three items in TagInfo, nutrition (20), nutrition_supplements (3) and 
nutritional_supplements (1).

If one were to make a suggestion for a base tag for the GNC franchise, one 
could, thus, go by the Wikipedia categorization and put it into both 
health_food and nutrition as {{tag|shop|health_food;nutrition}}.  This is 
what I'll do on the shop I'm putting in now, but I wanted to bring this out to 
stimulate conversation on whether or not a guideline of consistent baseline 
tagging for stores in a chain might be beneficial to the OSM dataset or not.  
The Wiki could be used to store the outcomes of discussions here.

--ceyockey

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Re: [Tagging] GNC (General Nutrition Centers) - variety of shop tag values

2013-01-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/1/6  dies38...@mypacks.net:
 I wanted to tag a GNC franchise outlet in the United States and wasn't quite 
 sure what value to use for the shop key.  I find that I'm not alone.  Using 
 OpenLinkMap, I identified most of the current GNC outlets mapped in the US 
 and recorded the key:shop values ... all of the variants appeared once; if 
 more than once, the number is in parentheses:

 shop=vitamin
 shop=vitamins
 shop=nutrition
 shop=Health
 shop=health
 shop=herbalist (3)
 shop=yes (2)
 shop=pharmacy
 shop=doityourself
 (no shop tag) (2)


I didn't know GNC before, but looking at http://www.gnc.com I'd
classify this as shop=nutrition_supplements (or as subclass) or s.th.
alike. I used the shop=herbalist for quite different kind of shops
(they mostly sell dried herbs).

You could add brand=GNC to filter easily for this specific franchise.

cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Tagging] GNC (General Nutrition Centers) - variety of shop tag values

2013-01-06 Thread Toby Murray
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 12:51 PM,  dies38...@mypacks.net wrote:
 I wanted to tag a GNC franchise outlet in the United States and wasn't quite 
 sure what value to use for the shop key.  I find that I'm not alone.  Using 
 OpenLinkMap, I identified most of the current GNC outlets mapped in the US 
 and recorded the key:shop values ... all of the variants appeared once; if 
 more than once, the number is in parentheses:

 shop=vitamin
 shop=vitamins
 shop=nutrition
 shop=Health
 shop=health
 shop=herbalist (3)
 shop=yes (2)
 shop=pharmacy
 shop=doityourself
 (no shop tag) (2)

 Depending how you look at it, this is either a healthy reflection of the 
 ability to tag anything with anything, or an indicator of the current 
 anarchic state of tagging :-) (the number found is also an indicator of the % 
 coverage for chain shops in general ... there are 6000 GNC stores in the 
 United States)

 Be that as it may, and allowing for variation from store to store, I'm 
 wondering if it might not be useful to identify a base tag value for shop 
 chains, allowing for additional values to be added if a particular location 
 varies from the chain template.  Looking at the wikipedia article, GNC 
 (store), the informative categories used are health food stores and 
 nutrition.  Looking in TagInfo shows that the value health_food is 
 available for key:shop at about rank 170 with 57 uses; nutrition shows up 
 as three items in TagInfo, nutrition (20), nutrition_supplements (3) and 
 nutritional_supplements (1).

 If one were to make a suggestion for a base tag for the GNC franchise, one 
 could, thus, go by the Wikipedia categorization and put it into both 
 health_food and nutrition as {{tag|shop|health_food;nutrition}}.  This is 
 what I'll do on the shop I'm putting in now, but I wanted to bring this out 
 to stimulate conversation on whether or not a guideline of consistent 
 baseline tagging for stores in a chain might be beneficial to the OSM dataset 
 or not.  The Wiki could be used to store the outcomes of discussions here.

Yes, this is a common problem in OSM. I first noticed it when I went
to tag my local Staples. I've had thoughts about creating some kind of
template on the wiki to document chain stores and what tags to use on
them but... well, I haven't run out of things to map yet so the time I
spend on the wiki isn't all that great.

As for using two values, I would discourage that. In theory that's a
great way to use two values for one key but in practice pretty much
nothing parses and supports multiple tag values. So I usually just
pick one and go with it.

Toby

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