Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Nick Bolten]

Hi all!

I think a value of "access_aisle" is entirely appropriate and that it makes
sense to be a footway, such as highway=footway + footway=access_aisle,
though if there's another new subtype that would be a catch-all for similar
features that would also make sense (e.g. footway=service). Access aisle
carries the same meaning in other English-speaking countries, including
UK-based governmental recommendations on blue badge spaces.

An access aisle is exactly the feature being described: the extra space
given to the side of a parking space for someone who needs more space to
exit. This is *not* solely for wheelchair users, it's also intended for use
by individuals using walkers or who need assistance exiting or entering a
vehicle, etc. I believe the purpose of this tag is so that any data
consumers can ask the question, "where are parking spaces with access
aisles?" and, "how do they connect to other foot ways?" Those same
consumers would probably want to know a width tag as well and possibly the
width of the parking space - it might warrant some research.

So, with that in mind:

- wheelchair=yes on a footway definitely doesn't describe an access aisle.
It means, "this mapper thinks a wheelchair user can use this footway",
which doesn't communicate anything to do with parking amenities.
wheelchair=* is also not that useful of a tag in the first place, because
wheelchair users disagree on what pedestrian features they care about on a
footway.

- wheelchair=designated is in a similar situation in that it doesn't
communicate that it's an access aisle, but a footway primarily intended for
wheelchair users, which also isn't true of an access aisle.

- footway=wheelchair_loading_aisle does communicate that it's a special
loading aisle, but has the same issue of restricting it's meaning to
wheelchair users.

I'm not sure what term would be a suitable alternative to access aisle,
since it'd need to have these meanings:

- It's a pedestrian space
- It's intended for disability access, which is widely defined and differs
between countries
- It's for passengers entering/exiting vehicles at a parking space.

Best,

Nick

On Thu, May 2, 2019, 8:59 AM Clifford Snow  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 7:54 AM Tony Shield 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> It does appear that 'access aisle' is US and from watching the video and
>> your picture it is an integral part of a parking_bay or parking_lane for
>> disabled access. It follows that a parking bay or parking lane tagged for
>> disabled then it must follow the regulations of that country. For very
>> detailed mapping of such a bay or lane then making it clear that the
>> hatched area is for disabled users as part of the adjoining parking bay is
>> good, but please do not use words with a very wide meaning, please find a
>> way of limiting the meaning to disabled people - disabled_access_area is
>> good for me.
>>
> Tony you seem to have summarized what I've read in other posts, that
> access_aisle is too generic which would lead to people adding it to
> features that have nothing to do with wheelchair access. Once that happens,
> the tag will have lost its meaning.
>
> Since the area is intended for wheelchair access to vehicles, does
> highway=footway + footway=wheelchair_loading_aisle work better? It does
> away with needing to add a third tag, wheelchair=designated, and would work
> even if someone added wheelchair=designated.
>
> Best,
> Clifford
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Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Clifford Snow]

On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 7:54 AM Tony Shield  wrote:

> Hi
>
> It does appear that 'access aisle' is US and from watching the video and
> your picture it is an integral part of a parking_bay or parking_lane for
> disabled access. It follows that a parking bay or parking lane tagged for
> disabled then it must follow the regulations of that country. For very
> detailed mapping of such a bay or lane then making it clear that the
> hatched area is for disabled users as part of the adjoining parking bay is
> good, but please do not use words with a very wide meaning, please find a
> way of limiting the meaning to disabled people - disabled_access_area is
> good for me.
>
Tony you seem to have summarized what I've read in other posts, that
access_aisle is too generic which would lead to people adding it to
features that have nothing to do with wheelchair access. Once that happens,
the tag will have lost its meaning.

Since the area is intended for wheelchair access to vehicles, does
highway=footway + footway=wheelchair_loading_aisle work better? It does
away with needing to add a third tag, wheelchair=designated, and would work
even if someone added wheelchair=designated.

Best,
Clifford

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Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Tony Shield]

Hi

It does appear that 'access aisle' is US and from watching the video and 
your picture it is an integral part of a parking_bay or parking_lane for 
disabled access. It follows that a parking bay or parking lane tagged 
for disabled then it must follow the regulations of that country. For 
very detailed mapping of such a bay or lane then making it clear that 
the hatched area is for disabled users as part of the adjoining parking 
bay is good, but please do not use words with a very wide meaning, 
please find a way of limiting the meaning to disabled people - 
disabled_access_area is good for me.


Regards

T

On 02/05/2019 13:24, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:


Hi,

from what I understood, "access aisle" is an official term only in the 
US, as described in the ADA standards 
(https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking), 
but it describes clearly (as least for a non native English speaker 
like me) what is it.


For mapping accessibility paths for disabled persons, I think it is 
quite important to have this information, so that its presence and 
accessibility from e.g. the sidewalk, is well represented (with e.g. 
tags describing kerbs). This picture [0] to me describes well the 
reason this can be really useful.


To only have amenity=parking_space mapped wouldn't help in describing 
and understanding the accessibility of the parking place from the 
footpaths/sidewalks.


I'm not sure about the use of the egress areas, that seem to be less 
related to access paths for disabled persons, and more related to 
areas not usable by other cars...


Ale

[0] 
https://www.access-board.gov/images/guidelines_standards/Buildings_Sites/guides/chapter5/5p15a.JPG


On 02/05/19 12:36, Tony Shield wrote:


Hi

[AA] is a Mapillary picture of a typical UK disabled parking bay, the 
hatched area is a what I think you are calling an 'access aisle'.  
Those particular disabled parking bays are legally designated and 
enforced.


I see that tags amenity 
=parking_space and 
parking_space 
=disabled 
 



are not described in the wiki but to my mind an entry for 
parking_space = disabled should meet the local space and marking 
scheme so in the UK a parking_space=disabled would without further 
definition include an egress space. If there is a wish to 
specifically mark those hatched areas then I suggest the use of the 
word 'egress' .


[AA] https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/5PAU747rlUdNrCaDtUNDuA

Regards

TonyS999

On 02/05/2019 10:54, Volker Schmidt wrote:
I would consider what is here described as access aisle (according 
to the photo [1]) part of the parking space. Here in Italy any 
parking space for the disabled has a dedicated "access aisle" 
similar to the photo.
If you want to achieve disabled (wheelchair) routing I would assume 
it to be sufficient to map the disabled parking spaces within the 
car park.


[1] https://mycloud.snowandsnow.us/index.php/s/F2mAATCQ54SzfcT

On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 11:31, Tony Shield > wrote:


Having today downloaded and read SN01360 [2] |I disagree with
the interpretation. In that document there is only one mention
of 'aisle' it being an 'access aisle' in Section 5.4 paragraph
marked Off-Street Parking  -" *Off-street parking*: bays should
be a minimum of 4800 mm long
by 2400 mm wide with additional space: (1) where bays are
parallel to the access aisle and access is available from the
side an
extra length of at least 180 0mm, or (2) where bays are
perpendicular to the access aisle, an additional width of at least
1200 mm along each side.

I read that as saying the 'access aisle' is that which in OSM is
marked as 'parking _aisle', and it leads to a parking bay
designated for disabled users, the 'access aisle' is not
exclusively for the use of disabled users. I am of the opinion
that 'access' is misinterpreted to refer only to disabled users
which is a very restrictive interpretation of the usual
interpretation of access being for anybody. I think it is
something to be very careful about.
Usage in the UK supports my interpretation - I know of many car
parks where ordinary and disabled spaces are next to each other
and accessed by a single way which has no restrictions.

For parking bays I think that the tag:amenity=parking _space is
clear.

Regards
TonyS999

On 02/05/2019 08:21, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:


Hi Clifford,

On 02/05/19 00:13, Clifford Snow wrote:

Since the off loading area is called an access aisle, both in
the US and UK [2], it seem to me that it would be an
appropriate term to use.  Would using highway=footway 

Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Hi,

from what I understood, "access aisle" is an official term only in the 
US, as described in the ADA standards 
(https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking), 
but it describes clearly (as least for a non native English speaker like 
me) what is it.


For mapping accessibility paths for disabled persons, I think it is 
quite important to have this information, so that its presence and 
accessibility from e.g. the sidewalk, is well represented (with e.g. 
tags describing kerbs). This picture [0] to me describes well the reason 
this can be really useful.


To only have amenity=parking_space mapped wouldn't help in describing 
and understanding the accessibility of the parking place from the 
footpaths/sidewalks.


I'm not sure about the use of the egress areas, that seem to be less 
related to access paths for disabled persons, and more related to areas 
not usable by other cars...


Ale

[0] 
https://www.access-board.gov/images/guidelines_standards/Buildings_Sites/guides/chapter5/5p15a.JPG


On 02/05/19 12:36, Tony Shield wrote:


Hi

[AA] is a Mapillary picture of a typical UK disabled parking bay, the 
hatched area is a what I think you are calling an 'access aisle'.  
Those particular disabled parking bays are legally designated and 
enforced.


I see that tags amenity 
=parking_space and 
parking_space 
=disabled 
 



are not described in the wiki but to my mind an entry for 
parking_space = disabled should meet the local space and marking 
scheme so in the UK a parking_space=disabled would without further 
definition include an egress space. If there is a wish to specifically 
mark those hatched areas then I suggest the use of the word 'egress' .


[AA] https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/5PAU747rlUdNrCaDtUNDuA

Regards

TonyS999

On 02/05/2019 10:54, Volker Schmidt wrote:
I would consider what is here described as access aisle (according to 
the photo [1]) part of the parking space. Here in Italy any parking 
space for the disabled has a dedicated "access aisle" similar to the 
photo.
If you want to achieve disabled (wheelchair) routing I would assume 
it to be sufficient to map the disabled parking spaces within the car 
park.


[1] https://mycloud.snowandsnow.us/index.php/s/F2mAATCQ54SzfcT

On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 11:31, Tony Shield > wrote:


Having today downloaded and read SN01360 [2] |I disagree with the
interpretation. In that document there is only one mention of
'aisle' it being an 'access aisle' in Section 5.4 paragraph
marked Off-Street Parking  -" *Off-street parking*: bays should
be a minimum of 4800 mm long
by 2400 mm wide with additional space: (1) where bays are
parallel to the access aisle and access is available from the side an
extra length of at least 180 0mm, or (2) where bays are
perpendicular to the access aisle, an additional width of at least
1200 mm along each side.

I read that as saying the 'access aisle' is that which in OSM is
marked as 'parking _aisle', and it leads to a parking bay
designated for disabled users, the 'access aisle' is not
exclusively for the use of disabled users. I am of the opinion
that 'access' is misinterpreted to refer only to disabled users
which is a very restrictive interpretation of the usual
interpretation of access being for anybody. I think it is
something to be very careful about.
Usage in the UK supports my interpretation - I know of many car
parks where ordinary and disabled spaces are next to each other
and accessed by a single way which has no restrictions.

For parking bays I think that the tag:amenity=parking _space is
clear.

Regards
TonyS999

On 02/05/2019 08:21, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:


Hi Clifford,

On 02/05/19 00:13, Clifford Snow wrote:

Since the off loading area is called an access aisle, both in
the US and UK [2], it seem to me that it would be an
appropriate term to use.  Would using highway=footway +
footway=access_aisle +  wheelchair=yes be a more acceptable
tagging scheme? My concern is that just adding wheelchair=yes
to a footway doesn't get at the requirement for the width of
the access_aisle.


[1]

https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking
[2]
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01360/SN01360.pdf


I'm really supporting your proposal for a highway=footway +
footway=access_aisle.

I would match this with a wheelchair=designated instead of a
wheelchair=yes, as suggested by Mateusz 

Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Tony Shield]

Hi

[AA] is a Mapillary picture of a typical UK disabled parking bay, the 
hatched area is a what I think you are calling an 'access aisle'.  Those 
particular disabled parking bays are legally designated and enforced.


I see that tags amenity 
=parking_space and 
parking_space 
=disabled 
 



are not described in the wiki but to my mind an entry for parking_space 
= disabled should meet the local space and marking scheme so in the UK a 
parking_space=disabled would without further definition include an 
egress space. If there is a wish to specifically mark those hatched 
areas then I suggest the use of the word 'egress' .


[AA] https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/5PAU747rlUdNrCaDtUNDuA

Regards

TonyS999

On 02/05/2019 10:54, Volker Schmidt wrote:
I would consider what is here described as access aisle (according to 
the photo [1]) part of the parking space. Here in Italy any parking 
space for the disabled has a dedicated "access aisle" similar to the 
photo.
If you want to achieve disabled (wheelchair) routing I would assume it 
to be sufficient to map the disabled parking spaces within the car park.


[1] https://mycloud.snowandsnow.us/index.php/s/F2mAATCQ54SzfcT

On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 11:31, Tony Shield > wrote:


Having today downloaded and read SN01360 [2] |I disagree with the
interpretation. In that document there is only one mention of
'aisle' it being an 'access aisle' in Section 5.4 paragraph marked
Off-Street Parking  -" *Off-street parking*: bays should be a
minimum of 4800 mm long
by 2400 mm wide with additional space: (1) where bays are
parallel to the access aisle and access is available from the side an
extra length of at least 180 0mm, or (2) where bays are
perpendicular to the access aisle, an additional width of at least
1200 mm along each side.

I read that as saying the 'access aisle' is that which in OSM is
marked as 'parking _aisle', and it leads to a parking bay
designated for disabled users, the 'access aisle' is not
exclusively for the use of disabled users. I am of the opinion
that 'access' is misinterpreted to refer only to disabled users
which is a very restrictive interpretation of the usual
interpretation of access being for anybody. I think it is
something to be very careful about.
Usage in the UK supports my interpretation - I know of many car
parks where ordinary and disabled spaces are next to each other
and accessed by a single way which has no restrictions.

For parking bays I think that the tag:amenity=parking _space is clear.

Regards
TonyS999

On 02/05/2019 08:21, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:


Hi Clifford,

On 02/05/19 00:13, Clifford Snow wrote:

Since the off loading area is called an access aisle, both in
the US and UK [2], it seem to me that it would be an appropriate
term to use.  Would using highway=footway +
footway=access_aisle +  wheelchair=yes be a more acceptable
tagging scheme? My concern is that just adding wheelchair=yes to
a footway doesn't get at the requirement for the width of the
access_aisle.


[1]

https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking
[2]
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01360/SN01360.pdf


I'm really supporting your proposal for a highway=footway +
footway=access_aisle.

I would match this with a wheelchair=designated instead of a
wheelchair=yes, as suggested by Mateusz Konieczny.

Best,

Ale


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Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Volker Schmidt]

I would consider what is here described as access aisle (according to the
photo [1]) part of the parking space. Here in Italy any parking space for
the disabled has a dedicated "access aisle" similar to the photo.
If you want to achieve disabled (wheelchair) routing I would assume it to
be sufficient to map the disabled parking spaces within the car park.

[1] https://mycloud.snowandsnow.us/index.php/s/F2mAATCQ54SzfcT

On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 11:31, Tony Shield  wrote:

> Having today downloaded and read SN01360 [2] |I disagree with the
> interpretation. In that document there is only one mention of 'aisle' it
> being an 'access aisle' in Section 5.4 paragraph marked Off-Street Parking
> -" *Off-street parking*: bays should be a minimum of 4800 mm long
> by 2400 mm wide with additional space: (1) where bays are
> parallel to the access aisle and access is available from the side an
> extra length of at least 180 0mm, or (2) where bays are
> perpendicular to the access aisle, an additional width of at least
> 1200 mm along each side.
> I read that as saying the 'access aisle' is that which in OSM is marked as
> 'parking _aisle', and it leads to a parking bay designated for disabled
> users, the 'access aisle' is not exclusively for the use of disabled users.
> I am of the opinion that 'access' is misinterpreted to refer only to
> disabled users which is a very restrictive interpretation of the usual
> interpretation of access being for anybody. I think it is something to be
> very careful about.
> Usage in the UK supports my interpretation - I know of many car parks
> where ordinary and disabled spaces are next to each other and accessed by a
> single way which has no restrictions.
>
> For parking bays I think that the tag:amenity=parking _space is clear.
>
> Regards
> TonyS999
>
> On 02/05/2019 08:21, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:
>
> Hi Clifford,
> On 02/05/19 00:13, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> Since the off loading area is called an access aisle, both in the US and
> UK [2], it seem to me that it would be an appropriate term to use.  Would
> using highway=footway + footway=access_aisle +  wheelchair=yes be a more
> acceptable tagging scheme? My concern is that just adding wheelchair=yes to
> a footway doesn't get at the requirement for the width of the
> access_aisle.
>
>
> [1]
> https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking
> [2]
> https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01360/SN01360.pdf
>
> I'm really supporting your proposal for a highway=footway +
> footway=access_aisle.
>
> I would match this with a wheelchair=designated instead of a
> wheelchair=yes, as suggested by Mateusz Konieczny.
>
> Best,
>
> Ale
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Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Tony Shield]

Having today downloaded and read SN01360 [2] |I disagree with the 
interpretation. In that document there is only one mention of 'aisle' it 
being an 'access aisle' in Section 5.4 paragraph marked Off-Street 
Parking  -" *Off-street parking*: bays should be a minimum of 4800 mm long

by 2400 mm wide with additional space: (1) where bays are
parallel to the access aisle and access is available from the side an
extra length of at least 180 0mm, or (2) where bays are
perpendicular to the access aisle, an additional width of at least
1200 mm along each side.

I read that as saying the 'access aisle' is that which in OSM is marked 
as 'parking _aisle', and it leads to a parking bay designated for 
disabled users, the 'access aisle' is not exclusively for the use of 
disabled users. I am of the opinion that 'access' is misinterpreted to 
refer only to disabled users which is a very restrictive interpretation 
of the usual interpretation of access being for anybody. I think it is 
something to be very careful about.
Usage in the UK supports my interpretation - I know of many car parks 
where ordinary and disabled spaces are next to each other and accessed 
by a single way which has no restrictions.


For parking bays I think that the tag:amenity=parking _space is clear.

Regards
TonyS999

On 02/05/2019 08:21, Alessandro Sarretta wrote:


Hi Clifford,

On 02/05/19 00:13, Clifford Snow wrote:
Since the off loading area is called an access aisle, both in the US 
and UK [2], it seem to me that it would be an appropriate term to 
use. Would using highway=footway + footway=access_aisle + 
 wheelchair=yes be a more acceptable tagging scheme? My concern is 
that just adding wheelchair=yes to a footway doesn't get at the 
requirement for the width of the access_aisle.



[1] 
https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking
[2] 
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01360/SN01360.pdf


I'm really supporting your proposal for a highway=footway + 
footway=access_aisle.


I would match this with a wheelchair=designated instead of a 
wheelchair=yes, as suggested by Mateusz Konieczny.


Best,

Ale


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Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Alessandro Sarretta]

Hi Clifford,

On 02/05/19 00:13, Clifford Snow wrote:
Since the off loading area is called an access aisle, both in the US 
and UK [2], it seem to me that it would be an appropriate term to 
use.  Would using highway=footway + footway=access_aisle + 
 wheelchair=yes be a more acceptable tagging scheme? My concern is 
that just adding wheelchair=yes to a footway doesn't get at the 
requirement for the width of the access_aisle.



[1] 
https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking
[2] 
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01360/SN01360.pdf


I'm really supporting your proposal for a highway=footway + 
footway=access_aisle.


I would match this with a wheelchair=designated instead of a 
wheelchair=yes, as suggested by Mateusz Konieczny.


Best,

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Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Clifford Snow]

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

>
> 1 May 2019, 20:11 by cliff...@snowandsnow.us:
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:13 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> highway=footway wheelchair=yes ... would be in keeping with present
> tagging of wheelchairs in OSM. ???
>
>
> wheelchair=yes doesn't capture the specific nature of the access_aisle.
> Most any footway could be wheelchair=yes, only only areas designed for
> unloading vans in a handicap parking space would have the tag
> highway=footway+footway=access_aisle.
>
> This would allow van navigation right to a parking lot with an access
> aisle.
>
> highway=footway wheelchair=designated may be worth considering
>
> Note that footway=access_aisle is not making clear that it is for
> wheelchairs -
> there are access aisles footway used for say unloading deliveries
>

Since the off loading area is called an access aisle, both in the US and UK
[2], it seem to me that it would be an appropriate term to use.  Would
using highway=footway + footway=access_aisle +  wheelchair=yes be a more
acceptable tagging scheme? My concern is that just adding wheelchair=yes to
a footway doesn't get at the requirement for the width of the access_aisle.


[1]
https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking
[2]
https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01360/SN01360.pdf

Best,
Clifford

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Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Mateusz Konieczny]

1 May 2019, 20:11 by cliff...@snowandsnow.us:

>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:13 PM Warin <> 61sundow...@gmail.com 
> > > wrote:
>
>>
>> highway=footway wheelchair=yes ... would be in keeping with present
>>  tagging of wheelchairs in OSM. ???
>>
>
> wheelchair=yes doesn't capture the specific nature of the access_aisle. Most 
> any footway could be wheelchair=yes, only only areas designed for unloading 
> vans in a handicap parking space would have the tag 
> highway=footway+footway=access_aisle. 
>
> This would allow van navigation right to a parking lot with an access aisle. 
>
highway=footway wheelchair=designated may be worth considering

Note that footway=access_aisle is not making clear that it is for wheelchairs -
there are access aisles footway used for say unloading deliveries

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Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Clifford Snow]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 9:13 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> highway=footway wheelchair=yes ... would be in keeping with present
> tagging of wheelchairs in OSM. ???
>

wheelchair=yes doesn't capture the specific nature of the access_aisle.
Most any footway could be wheelchair=yes, only only areas designed for
unloading vans in a handicap parking space would have the tag
highway=footway+footway=access_aisle.

This would allow van navigation right to a parking lot with an access
aisle.

I admit I was kind of lazy when I sent this email. Sending a complete
proposal would have been better, and I'm willing to create one, but this
seemed like a no-brainer to me.

Best,
Clifford
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Re: [Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Warin]

On 30/04/19 04:34, Clifford Snow wrote:
I'd like to add a new tag to highway=footway, footway=access_aisle. An 
access aisle [1] is the space allowed in parking lots for vans. (Vans 
that are equipped with a wheelchair ramp.)


According to Wikipedia [2] and the Americans with Disabilities Act 
Handbook, access aisles "shall be part of an accessible route to the 
building for facility entrance." I've seen these in other countries as 
well as the US.


Thoughts?


highway=footway wheelchair=yes ... would be in keeping with present 
tagging of wheelchairs in OSM. ???


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[Tagging] Handicap Parking Access Aisles

[Clifford Snow]

I'd like to add a new tag to highway=footway, footway=access_aisle. An
access aisle [1] is the space allowed in parking lots for vans. (Vans that
are equipped with a wheelchair ramp.)

According to Wikipedia [2] and the Americans with Disabilities Act
Handbook, access aisles "shall be part of an accessible route to the
building for facility entrance." I've seen these in other countries as well
as the US.

Thoughts?


[1] https://mycloud.snowandsnow.us/index.php/s/F2mAATCQ54SzfcT
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disabled_parking_permit
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