Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Blake Girardot writes: I think issues of does the data belong in OSM are separate issues, I am just interested in how to map it and tag it well. I would be mapping nothing but ground truthed data that we already map every day, trees and

Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Kevin Kenny
That sounds good for the wooden (!) helipad visible in https://binged.it/2gdSX38 , too. That's no longer in regular use, and the H has been removed from it, because the fire tower visible to the southwest is no longer staffed. It's still viable for an emergency (and sees an occasional flight to

Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Alberto Nogaro
>-Original Message- >From: Tom Pfeifer [mailto:t.pfei...@computer.org] >Sent: mercoledì 23 novembre 2016 00:49 >To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org> >Subject: Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing >zo

Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Blake Girardot
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > >>> On Nov 22, 2016 8:41 PM, "Blake Girardot" wrote: >>> >>> I have worked with folks doing ground surveys of helicopter landing >>> zones during emergency response. >>> >>> These are ground

Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Blake Girardot
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 8:33 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > aeroway=helipad should be used only for built-up infrastructure, not for > emergency places that have a different use normally. > > An emergency landing place is nothing but a predefined clear space, it could > be a

Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 22.11.2016 15:52, Alberto Nogaro wrote: I had always thought that "a large H painted on it visible from the air" was enough to mark the spot as aeroway=helipad, even if the place is mainly conceived for emergency purposes. As we just learned from the Korean mountains example, some light

Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Alberto Nogaro
>-Original Message- >From: Tom Pfeifer [mailto:t.pfei...@computer.org] >Sent: martedì 22 novembre 2016 14:33 >To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org> >Subject: Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing >z

Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Greg Troxel
>> On Nov 22, 2016 8:41 PM, "Blake Girardot" wrote: >> >> I have worked with folks doing ground surveys of helicopter landing >> zones during emergency response. >> >> These are ground truthed locations, observed by active search and >> rescue helicopter

Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Tom Pfeifer
aeroway=helipad should be used only for built-up infrastructure, not for emergency places that have a different use normally. An emergency landing place is nothing but a predefined clear space, it could be a soccer pitch or a big lawn in a park in normal situations. There is already

Re: [Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Andrew Errington
I tag them as aeroway=helipad, and it looks like this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/35.2932/127.5317 There are a lot of them in the mountains of Korea. Usually marked out with a pattern of white stones embedded in the ground. Would like to know if there's a better way, or if doing it

[Tagging] How might we best map emergency helicopter landing zones?

2016-11-22 Thread Blake Girardot
Dear friends, I have worked with folks doing ground surveys of helicopter landing zones during emergency response. These are ground truthed locations, observed by active search and rescue helicopter pilots collecting the basic minimum critical ground survey items for an HLZ for their aircraft