Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-23 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:57:36 +0200 Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 23.04.2018 12:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > For privacy concerns we obviously wouldn't map foster families, I'm > > less sure for supervised shared apartments (it depends whether they > > are publicly known / promoted / listed, have

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-23 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 23.04.2018 12:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: For privacy concerns we obviously wouldn't map foster families, I'm less sure for supervised shared apartments (it depends whether they are publicly known / promoted / listed, have a sign, etc., or if you need "insider knowledge"). Exactly. I wou

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-23 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-04-23 0:30 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer : > > As for the part of the world I live in, Charles Dickens-style 'orphanages' > don't exist anymore. > Younger minors that are separated from their parents would be placed in > foster families, or live in family-style structures following the > SOS-Kinderdo

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 22.04.2018 23:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 22. Apr 2018, at 22:23, Paul Allen wrote: It might have as much to do with tagging as trying to replace terms with euphemisms. They're all social facilities. They're all group homes. Then specify the target group. I am getting more and mor

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Apr 2018, at 22:23, Paul Allen wrote: > > It might have as much to do with tagging as trying to replace terms with > euphemisms. They're all social facilities. > They're all group homes. Then specify the target group. > > Handling it any other way would lead to a

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 8:57 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > I see, but there are also actual group homes, like those described in the > wikipedia article. I guess there will also generally have been some changes > in the way orphanages or nursing homes are organized, if you look at long > t

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Apr 2018, at 20:56, Paul Allen wrote: > > As I understand it, "group home" is a euphemism (or umbrella term, depending > how you view such linguistic > changes) replacing things like "orphanage," "old folks' home," "nursing > home" and the like. I see, but there

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 7:23 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 22. Apr 2018, at 18:07, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > The distinction is between living as an individual and living in > combination with others and sharing some facilities > > > I have never heard of facilities for orphans where t

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Apr 2018, at 18:07, Paul Allen wrote: > > The distinction is between living as an individual and living in combination > with others and sharing some facilities I have never heard of facilities for orphans where they live individually and don’t share facilities,

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Paul Allen
On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 4:54 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I would say the question is less about the size of the house and more > about the size of the group(s). To me the term “group” in the context of > living implies a small number of people in one “unit”. You are not living > with a “gr

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Apr 2018, at 11:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 1) The note was already there, but it was worded in a confusing way > (it was stated in an indirect way with "The OSM use does not limit the > size of such home"). I would say the question is less about the size of t

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Sun, 22 Apr 2018 10:33:31 +0200 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > it never works when we use words as tags with a different meaning > than the established one. I oppose adding such a note. 1) The note was already there, but it was worded in a confusing way (it was stated in an indirect way with "T

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 22. Apr 2018, at 09:15, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I will add note that OSM usage of group home is different from how > Wikipedia and others may define it it never works when we use words as tags with a different meaning than the established one. I oppose adding suc

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 19:01:55 +0200 Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 14:28:09 +0200 > Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > > On 20.04.2018 12:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > I encountered one with amenity=social_facility, JOSM is asking to > > > provide proper social_facility tag (what make

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 14:28:09 +0200 Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 20.04.2018 12:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I encountered one with amenity=social_facility, JOSM is asking to > > provide proper social_facility tag (what makes sense) > > > > None from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:social_f

Re: [Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-20 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 20.04.2018 12:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I encountered one with amenity=social_facility, JOSM is asking to provide proper social_facility tag (what makes sense) None from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:social_facility seems to fit so I used social_facility=orphanage used 17x Is

[Tagging] How orphanage should be tagged?

2018-04-20 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I encountered one with amenity=social_facility, JOSM is asking to provide proper social_facility tag (what makes sense) None from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:social_facility seems to fit so I used social_facility=orphanage Is there any good reason to use other tag? __