Re: [Tagging] How to tag access restriction on interstate highway crossovers?
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 3:32 PM Xavier wrote: > > By "interstate highway crossovers" I mean small bits of road that > connect the two carriage ways of a US interstate highway and are signed > as "Authorized Vehicles Only" (at least in Virginia they are signed > this way). > > An example is here: > > http://openstreetcam.org/details/1253343/475/track-info > > If you look at the left edge of the photo, you will see part of the > pavement of the small way that connects to the other traffic lane of > the highway. Zooming in on the sign visible just behind the curved > guardrail at the far end of the crossover in the photo will show the > "Authorized Vehicles Only" restriction language. Clicking on the "edit > in Id|JOSM" links will open the location so you can see the aerial > images of the "crossover". > > The "Authorized Vehicles Only" sign really translates to: access > allowed for police, fire, and rescue vehicles. > > A way mapping this feature would obviously be highway=service. > > And an initial access=no tag to prevent routers from deciding to try to > use it for U-turns. > > But looking at the wiki values for the access= key there are two > 'close' values for "access allowed for police, fire, and rescue": > > 1) private > 2) designated > > However the description of designated indicates that it is a different > meaning than what is meant here. That leaves private, but somehow > 'private' seems not really a good fit at the same time. It is not > really 'private' as in privately owned, it is public, but restricted. > > So is access=private correct, or is there a better tag that I've not > located yet? > Typically these are highway=service access=no emergency=yes ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How to tag access restriction on interstate highway crossovers?
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 18:06:26 -0500 Xavier wrote: > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:38:26PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >On Sun, 30 Dec 2018, 22:31 Xavier >> By "interstate highway crossovers" I mean small bits of road that > >> connect the two carriage ways of a US interstate highway and are > >> signed as "Authorized Vehicles Only" (at least in Virginia they > >> are signed this way). > >> > >> An example is here: > >> > >> http://openstreetcam.org/details/1253343/475/track-info > >> > >> ... > >What about > >access=emergency > >? > > That could work, except it is marked "Abandoned" in the wiki: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency_vehicle_access > > emergency vehicle access > Status: Abandoned (inactive) Doesn't mean it's not in use. According to TagInfo, "access=emergency" has 2700 uses, while the related "emergency=yes" has 66,500. -- Mark ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How to tag access restriction on interstate highway crossovers?
Il giorno dom, 30/12/2018 alle 18.06 -0500, Xavier ha scritto: > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:38:26PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2018, 22:31 Xavier < > > xav...@dp100.com > > wrote: > > > By "interstate highway crossovers" I mean small bits of road that > > > connect the two carriage ways of a US interstate highway and are > > > signed > > > as "Authorized Vehicles Only" (at least in Virginia they are > > > signed > > > this way). > > > > > > An example is here: > > > > > > http://openstreetcam.org/details/1253343/475/track-info > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > What about > > access=emergency > > ? > > That could work, except it is marked "Abandoned" in the wiki: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency_vehicle_access > > > emergency vehicle access > Status: Abandoned (inactive) > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > access=private doesn't really mean it is privately owned but access only by permission, so it's actually what you want. In addition, to allow emergency vehicles you can use emergency=yes. Lorenzo ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How to tag access restriction on interstate highway crossovers?
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:38:26PM +0100, Volker Schmidt wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2018, 22:31 Xavier By "interstate highway crossovers" I mean small bits of road that connect the two carriage ways of a US interstate highway and are signed as "Authorized Vehicles Only" (at least in Virginia they are signed this way). An example is here: http://openstreetcam.org/details/1253343/475/track-info ... What about access=emergency ? That could work, except it is marked "Abandoned" in the wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency_vehicle_access emergency vehicle access Status: Abandoned (inactive) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] How to tag access restriction on interstate highway crossovers?
What about access=emergency ? On Sun, 30 Dec 2018, 22:31 Xavier > By "interstate highway crossovers" I mean small bits of road that > connect the two carriage ways of a US interstate highway and are signed > as "Authorized Vehicles Only" (at least in Virginia they are signed > this way). > > An example is here: > > http://openstreetcam.org/details/1253343/475/track-info > > If you look at the left edge of the photo, you will see part of the > pavement of the small way that connects to the other traffic lane of > the highway. Zooming in on the sign visible just behind the curved > guardrail at the far end of the crossover in the photo will show the > "Authorized Vehicles Only" restriction language. Clicking on the "edit > in Id|JOSM" links will open the location so you can see the aerial > images of the "crossover". > > The "Authorized Vehicles Only" sign really translates to: access > allowed for police, fire, and rescue vehicles. > > A way mapping this feature would obviously be highway=service. > > And an initial access=no tag to prevent routers from deciding to try to > use it for U-turns. > > But looking at the wiki values for the access= key there are two > 'close' values for "access allowed for police, fire, and rescue": > > 1) private > 2) designated > > However the description of designated indicates that it is a different > meaning than what is meant here. That leaves private, but somehow > 'private' seems not really a good fit at the same time. It is not > really 'private' as in privately owned, it is public, but restricted. > > So is access=private correct, or is there a better tag that I've not > located yet? > > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] How to tag access restriction on interstate highway crossovers?
By "interstate highway crossovers" I mean small bits of road that connect the two carriage ways of a US interstate highway and are signed as "Authorized Vehicles Only" (at least in Virginia they are signed this way). An example is here: http://openstreetcam.org/details/1253343/475/track-info If you look at the left edge of the photo, you will see part of the pavement of the small way that connects to the other traffic lane of the highway. Zooming in on the sign visible just behind the curved guardrail at the far end of the crossover in the photo will show the "Authorized Vehicles Only" restriction language. Clicking on the "edit in Id|JOSM" links will open the location so you can see the aerial images of the "crossover". The "Authorized Vehicles Only" sign really translates to: access allowed for police, fire, and rescue vehicles. A way mapping this feature would obviously be highway=service. And an initial access=no tag to prevent routers from deciding to try to use it for U-turns. But looking at the wiki values for the access= key there are two 'close' values for "access allowed for police, fire, and rescue": 1) private 2) designated However the description of designated indicates that it is a different meaning than what is meant here. That leaves private, but somehow 'private' seems not really a good fit at the same time. It is not really 'private' as in privately owned, it is public, but restricted. So is access=private correct, or is there a better tag that I've not located yet? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
