Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-08 Thread Christian Müller
s" Betreff: Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings I consider using highway=path on urban shared cycle/footways a very bad an confusing practice. A path is an unpaved, one man width little way in a forest or a green area. This is not a by default paved cycleway nor a fo

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I propose a new sublist for tagging which would only deal with discussions about highway=path. This way all related discussion will be easily retrievable in the archive and we can refer people to look through past discussions, without this request being rejectable as disproportionate. Cheers,

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-08 Thread Tomas Straupis
2019-07-08, pr, 10:53 Márton Keleti rašė: > I consider using highway=path on urban shared cycle/footways a very bad an > confusing practice. <...> Idea is that path is not only "one man width unpaved" way, but it is also a way where neither footway, nor cycleway fits because the way is for

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-08 Thread Márton Keleti
I consider using highway=path on urban shared cycle/footways a very bad an confusing practice. A path is an unpaved, one man width little way in a forest or a green area. This is not a by default paved cycleway nor a footway. I prefer using cycleway for these shared ways, because that is the

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
7 lip 2019, 00:07 od matkoni...@tutanota.com: > 6 lip 2019, 23:52 od dieterdre...@gmail.com: > >> >> >> sent from a phone >> >>> On 6. Jul 2019, at 23:41, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >>> >>> It sounds like bicycle=yes, at least that is >>> how such objects are tagged in Poland. >>> >> >> >> at

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6 lip 2019, 23:52 od dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 6. Jul 2019, at 23:41, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >> It sounds like bicycle=yes, at least that is >> how such objects are tagged in Poland. >> > > > at least in Germany there is a difference between bicycle=yes on a

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 6. Jul 2019, at 23:41, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > It sounds like bicycle=yes, at least that is > how such objects are tagged in Poland. at least in Germany there is a difference between bicycle=yes on a footway (it means they must not ride faster than walking speed

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6 lip 2019, 22:31 od vosc...@gmail.com: > In IT it is legally essentially a footway on which cyclists are tolerated, > but the pedestrians have always priority to the extend that if there are too > many pedestrians the cyclists have to dismount, and always have to ride at > moderate

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Volker Schmidt
>"Suspicious tag combination highway=cycleway together with > foot=designated, use highway=path" > I interpreted this as invition to use the "neutral" tagging scheme based on highway=path + foot=designated + bicycle=designated + segregted0yes|no which is the tagging scheme that JOSM implicitly

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6 lip 2019, 14:59 od tagging@openstreetmap.org: > >"Suspicious tag combination highway=cycleway together with foot=designated, > >use highway=path" > >     This is incorrect. A cycleway tag can be used on a shared path, one which > can have a designation for other >     transport modes, such

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread marc marc
Le 06.07.19 à 14:59, Dave F via Tagging a écrit : > > use highway=path" > This is incorrect <...> on a shared path Funny to say that a shared PATH mapped with highway=PATH is incorrect. we already have this discussion several times on talk-fr, it's often the same scenario: - a cyclist considers

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Dave F via Tagging
On 06/07/2019 14:08, Andy Townsend wrote: Where any editor gives incorrect suggestions I'd suggest raising a ticket with the editor concerned about it.  I've done that a couple of times in the past with JOSM and the issues have been resolved almost immediately. Obviously it helps to provide

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/07/2019 13:59, Dave F via Tagging wrote: Hi Unsure if these validation warnings on uploading a changeset in JOSM are new or I've never noticed them before: >"Suspicious tag combination highway=cycleway together with foot=designated, use highway=path"     This is incorrect. A cycleway

Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 6. Jul 2019, at 14:59, Dave F via Tagging > wrote: > > Anybody know when & why these were introduced? IIRR, it was like 10-20 years ago. You should be able to find more information on the path page in the wiki. Cheers, Martin

[Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings

2019-07-06 Thread Dave F via Tagging
Hi Unsure if these validation warnings on uploading a changeset in JOSM are new or I've never noticed them before: >"Suspicious tag combination highway=cycleway together with foot=designated, use highway=path"     This is incorrect. A cycleway tag can be used on a shared path, one which