It's all driven by technocrats who have no clue about what a tree
or forest looks like in the real world.
Small note, phrases like this are unlikely to be a good idea.
2015-03-11 17:36 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at:
On 10.03.2015 21:41, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I'm seeking comments
On 10.03.2015 21:41, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
I'm seeking comments on adding palm to the leaf types
at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leaf_type
A rendering engine can equate palm and broadleaved. Mappers are mapping
palms
very frequently, and having this key name I think would reduce
On 11.03.2015 17:58, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
It's all driven by technocrats who have no clue about what a tree
or forest looks like in the real world.
Small note, phrases like this are unlikely to be a good idea.
Let's assume that technocrats don't read this. :-)
--
Friedrich K. Volkmann
There are 533 413 elements with the “leaf_type” key. Only 83 of them
have the value “palm”. This are 0.0156 % and certainly not “widely
used” at all!
I suppose you want to make a mechanical edit to change the existing 13
056 elements with type=palm. But you would change the description of
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Russell Deffner
russell.deff...@hotosm.org wrote:
Hi, I hope this helps (and that I’m remembering correctly my education from
forestry school in the states),
In taxonomy of trees there are two kinds of families - gymnosperms and
angiosperms, commonly called
Hi, I hope this helps (and that I’m remembering correctly my education from
forestry school in the states),
In taxonomy of trees there are two kinds of families - gymnosperms and
angiosperms, commonly called deciduous and coniferous but actually
scientifically separated by their reproductive
It would be harder to process and break existing data consumers.
I think that cascading tagging style - [leaf_type=broadleaved;
broadleaved=palm]
would be better.
It provides full information without growing list of valid values of
leaf_type.
2015-03-11 2:32 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt
+1
Gesendet:Mittwoch, 11. Mrz 2015 um 08:13 Uhr
Von:Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com
An:Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org
Betreff:Re: [Tagging] Leaf type of palm for leaf_type
There are 533413 elements with the leaf_type key. Only 83 of them
have the value
key:species or key:genus or key:taxon. Im not sure which will fit the best.
Gesendet:Dienstag, 10. Mrz 2015 um 21:41 Uhr
Von:Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
An:Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org
Betreff:[Tagging] Leaf type of palm for leaf_type
Im
2015-03-11 12:24 GMT+01:00 Rudolf Martin rudolf.mar...@gmx.de:
Perhaps we can find a general simple tagging for palms.
key:genus and key:species expect the scientific name of a plant. These are
normaly not known to non-botanists.
you could also use common names, e.g. species:de=Ölpalme or
2015-03-11 7:40 GMT+01:00 Russell Deffner russell.deff...@hotosm.org:
In taxonomy of trees there are two kinds of families - gymnosperms and
angiosperms, commonly called deciduous and coniferous but actually
scientifically separated by their reproductive difference not what their
leaves look
2015-03-11 5:54 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
There are species and genus tags, but many mappers won't be able to
fill that those. Palm on the other hand is easy,
and makes a great map symbol also.
If you're not sure about the genus or species, you could also use more
discussion, strategy and related tools
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Leaf type of palm for leaf_type
2015-03-11 7:40 GMT+01:00 Russell Deffner russell.deff...@hotosm.org:
In taxonomy of trees there are two kinds of families - gymnosperms and
angiosperms, commonly called deciduous and coniferous
It certainly seems to me that palm trees are different enough from what I
usually consider to be a broad-leafed tree to warrant their own leaf_type.
+1
Palms are their own group of trees distinct from broad-leaved trees or
conifers and it makes sense to tag with a different value.
Mike
+1
leaf_type=palm would loose no data, and still be recognizable as a
broadleaved leaf type.
It certainly seems to me that palm trees are different enough from what I
usually consider to be a broad-leafed tree to warrant their own leaf_type.
My 2 cents
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Bryce
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:01 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote:
There are places where there are an amazing mount of Palm trees, and
confusing them with a broadleaf tree is not great. But is this the main way
the species (or class or whatever) of tree is defined? I thought there was
some
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Lukas Sommer sommer...@gmail.com wrote:
So it this seems to me that this is just a special case of broadleaved.
The difficulty is that palms are widely mapped now, and changing type=palm
to leaf_type=broadleaved
feels like removing information. Yet that's what
There are places where there are an amazing mount of Palm trees, and confusing
them with a broadleaf tree is not great. But is this the main way the species
(or class or whatever) of tree is defined? it thought there was some species
tag for this as well - or is it too difficult when mapping to
I'm seeking comments on adding palm to the leaf types
at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:leaf_type
A rendering engine can equate palm and broadleaved. Mappers are mapping
palms
very frequently, and having this key name I think would reduce confusion.
“palm” is described explicitly as an example at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leaf_type%3Dbroadleaved
So it this seems to me that this is just a special case of broadleaved.
I have doubts in adding a new value which is just a special case of an
existing value – in the same key. We loose
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