I suggest we use shopping_centre as a broader term. A mall is a special
type of shopping centre (big, enclosed, with amenities). Tagging a mall
with shop=shopping_centre isn't wrong, but shop=mall is more specific.
That way we can tag everything that isn't a mall but has several shops
together
Paul,
according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mall your first two examples are
malls, the third one would not be a mall.
Volker
On 21 October 2014 07:57, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
I'm thinking this is a shopping mall
Isn't shopping centre a collection of disparate stores grouped together for
connivence (same parking lot), whereas a mall is a singular large (or several
large) buildings full of little shops, primarily accessed by a pedestrian
Thoroughfare in the center?
To me the defining characteristic is
The second is in no way, shape or form, a mall, in the modern usage of Mall'
to define a shopping plaza destination. The word mall can also define a
pedestrian walkway with shops, But the singular noun of Mall - meaning a
large pedestrian centric shopping plaza - is very different than 5 shops
The third is functionally an esplanade (far, far more people walk it than
drive it), and it's official name is the Portland Mall. Originally it only
had bus lanes on it, but Portland being too cheap to install bus traps and
not exactly having the most rigorous enforcement decided to add a third
I agree with Matthjis--I don't see much of a clearly defined and widely
agreed on difference between the two. Given that, and the small usage of
shopping_centre, I agree with should deprecate shopping_centre.
Cheers, Brad
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
To me analyzing the given examples it seems as if a mall was necessarily a
closed place while a shopping center would/could have outdoor connectivity.
They appear to be similar as they both have several independent shops and
collective facilities like toilets and parking. Maybe a mall has to have
On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:21 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
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To me analyzing the given examples it seems as if a mall was
Your description of a mall as an enclosed place makes sense to me, but where I
live they seem to call anything a “mall”.
Here is the Watchung Square Mall”: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258702838
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258702838
and the “Valley Mall”:
On Oct 21, 2014, at 9:54 PM, Bryan Housel br...@7thposition.com wrote:
Your description of a mall as an enclosed place makes sense to me, but where
I live they seem to call anything a “mall”.
Here is the Watchung Square Mall”: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/258702838
and the “Valley
A few points:
* OSM standard is British English. Shopping Centre is standard British
English for an enclosed pedestrian space with lots of shops. Historically these
have been covered, but this is changing to a simulated street environment (in
UK Liverpool One the Arc at Bury St Edmunds
To me analyzing the given examples it seems as if a mall was necessarily a
closed place while a shopping center would/could have outdoor connectivity.
They appear to be similar as they both have several independent shops and
collective facilities like toilets and parking. Maybe a mall has to
2014-10-21 15:39 GMT+02:00 Jerry Clough - OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk:
- Use of the shop tag is inherently problematic. These are not shops
but retail areas. At the moment whenever I do any kind of retail analytical
query I have to do AND NOT IN (shop='mall'). I would prefer to use
On 21/10/2014 12:06, Brad Neuhauser wrote:
I agree with Matthjis--I don't see much of a clearly defined and
widely agreed on difference between the two. Given that, and the small
usage of shopping_centre, I agree with should deprecate shopping_centre.
Just chipping in to say that 'mall' is
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On Oct 21, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote:
I was also thinking that landuse=retail makes more sense than either mall or
shopping_centre. If you have a big building enclosing lots of shops, you can
tag it building=mall.
johnw, I
Dear all,
We have currently two tags with a closely related, if not identical,
meaning: shop=mall (26 643 instances) and shop=shopping_centre (182
instances).
Is there a difference between these two tags, or should we deprecate
shop=shopping_centre in favour of shop=mall?
-- Matthijs
At least in the USA, mall usually refers to a group of stores around a
pedestrian-only courtyard, often with a common roof over both the stores and
the courtyard space, and sharing a common parking lot. Shopping center usually
refers to a linear or C-shaped group of stores, with a common
I'm thinking this is a shopping mall
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Eaton_Centre_HDR_style.jpg,
and this is a shopping center
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Strip_Mall_Troy.jpg.
Not to be confused with a mall http://i.imgur.com/MDVBYKF.jpg.
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