Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-22 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
| Every Journey Matters Restrictions on using the TfL roundels. | | | | From: Philip Barnes <p...@trigpoint.me.uk> To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, 19 September 2017, 13:18 Subject: Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions? Ignoring the legal arguments f

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-20 Thread Marc Gemis
> > If that interpretation is correct, there would have to be a Wikipedia > article, Commons page (not just a related image), or similar entry in > the Wikimedia ecosystem to meet the notability criteria. I doubt it has to be in the Wikimedia ecosystem. People work hard to get all paintings from

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-20 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 19.09.2017 23:41, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > AFAIK wikidata's notability requirements should not be an issue, because > it is sufficient there is a link to a commons page [1] to comply. > [1] https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Notability The notability requirements specifically mention

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread SwiftFast
> AFAIK wikidata's notability requirements should not be an issue, > because it is sufficient there is a link to a commons page [1] to > comply. > Are there any notability guidelines for adding things to Commons? ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Sep 2017, at 19:14, Tobias Knerr wrote: > > I think a logo tag could have it's place. I prefer > using Wikidata where possible, but Wikidata has notability guidelines > that will probably prevent creating an item for smaller stores that are >

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread Neil Matthews
I guess logos are a sort of "cut-price" street view? Some logos will need language/country specific options -- which might make tagging them useful. Unless localization already works with wikidata? How to find e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Burger_King_Arabic_logo.svg from

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread SwiftFast
> using Wikidata where possible, but Wikidata has notability guidelines > that will probably prevent creating an item for smaller stores that > are > not part of a major national or international brand. One could refine the proposal: Only add a "logo" tag for entities which are not allowed in

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 19.09.2017 16:27, José G Moya Y. wrote: > It's up to > the rendering app creators to decide if they want to display some shops > using its logos. In that case, the app would probably have some other > way to display them. What way would that be? Unless we want each render style author to

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread SwiftFast
On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 13:06 +0100, Philip Barnes wrote: > Ignoring the legal arguments for a moment, but what would OSM gain or > do with this information. How would it help us build a better map? Navigation. A logo is a distinct physical feature providing an easy way for a human to locate

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread José G Moya Y .
The logo value seems to be useful on the rendering side only. It's up to the rendering app creators to decide if they want to display some shops using its logos. In that case, the app would probably have some other way to display them. -1 to this proposal. El 19/9/2017 14:19, "Philip Barnes"

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread Philip Barnes
Ignoring the legal arguments for a moment, but what would OSM gain or do with this information. How would it help us build a better map? Phil (trigpoint) On 19 September 2017 08:10:15 BST, SwiftFast wrote: >The logo tag would link to a Logo of a company/organization/shop. >

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread François Lacombe
2017-09-19 10:57 GMT+02:00 Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi < e.marascal...@gmail.com>: > My 2cents: > Logos are already available through wikidata. I would prefer to add the > wikidata id instead of redundant informations to commercial networks. > > Edo > +1 Cheers François

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread SwiftFast
On Tue, 2017-09-19 at 11:57 +0300, Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi wrote: > My 2cents: > Logos are already available through wikidata. I would prefer to add > the > wikidata id instead of redundant informations to commercial networks. > > Edo Good point.

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread Edoardo Yossef Marascalchi
My 2cents: Logos are already available through wikidata. I would prefer to add the wikidata id instead of redundant informations to commercial networks. Edo On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 11:51 AM, SwiftFast wrote: > Sorry for the broken links. > > Company logos legal guidelines: >

Re: [Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread SwiftFast
Sorry for the broken links. Company logos legal guidelines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Logos Logo catalog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Company_logos ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Proposal: logo tag. Opinions?

2017-09-19 Thread SwiftFast
The logo tag would link to a Logo of a company/organization/shop. To avoid unreliable links, questionable licenses, and the rest of the drawbacks of the "image"[1] tag, the value must link to a Wikimedia Commons image. The value format is identical to the wikimedia_commons[2] format. [1]