Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools / ISCED update

2012-11-29 Thread Martin Koppenhöfer
Am 29/nov/2012 um 06:42 schrieb Andreas Labres : > BTW, there are many cases where more than one type of school reside in the > same > building/campus, eg. Volks- + Haupt/Mittelschule (6-15). > This is similar to shops, and i believe we could similarily distinguish here between 2 or more s

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools / ISCED update

2012-11-28 Thread Andreas Labres
Tagging ISCED [0] doesn't help for Austria, too. Also, AHS typically include both level 2 and 3. Tagging school types can probably only be solved on a national level (and probably doesn't make any sense, globally). So tagging minimum ages would make the most sense to me. ISCED 1 = 6-10 (Grundst

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-28 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: > I think 'state school' is more common. I don't think any English speaker > would say 'government school'. > https://www.google.com/search?q="government+school"+site%3A.au I think the most neutral terms here (Australia) are "goverment s

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-28 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
On 28/11/12 17:06, Phil! Gold wrote: > * Svavar Kjarrval [2012-11-25 00:08 +]: >> The RFC process has started for my proposal to tag the age groups >> schools offer education for. More information is on the wiki page. >> >> The proposal is at >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_fe

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools / ISCED update

2012-11-28 Thread Guillaume Allegre
Le mer. 28 nov. 2012 à 19:35 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer a ecrit : > 2012/11/28 Guillaume Allegre : > >> I happen to think the existing ISCED proposal is easy to use and provides > >> more relevant information than the age groups proposal. > >> > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_feat

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools / ISCED update

2012-11-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/28 Guillaume Allegre : >> I happen to think the existing ISCED proposal is easy to use and provides >> more relevant information than the age groups proposal. >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ISCED > > I agree, as ISCED is an international proposed standard, from

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools / ISCED update

2012-11-28 Thread Guillaume Allegre
Le mer. 28 nov. 2012 à 12:06 -0500, Phil! Gold a ecrit : > * Svavar Kjarrval [2012-11-25 00:08 +]: > > The RFC process has started for my proposal to tag the age groups > > schools offer education for. More information is on the wiki page. > > > > The proposal is at > > https://wiki.openstree

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-28 Thread Phil! Gold
* Svavar Kjarrval [2012-11-25 00:08 +]: > The RFC process has started for my proposal to tag the age groups > schools offer education for. More information is on the wiki page. > > The proposal is at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/age_group . I happen to think the ex

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2012/11/26 Philip Barnes : > > In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, > such as > > Eaton, Harrow etc. > > > thanks for clarification, for those interested in further info: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_school_(United_Kingdom) >

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Konfrare Albert
In Spain there are schools named concerted, these are schools that are subsidized schools with public money but are organized by a private structure. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_Org%C3%A1nica_de_Educaci%C3%B3n_%28Espa%C3%B1a%29#Clases_de_centros_escolares There aren't «public» (or «state_scho

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Andrew Errington
> 2012/11/26 Philip Barnes : > > In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, such > > as Eaton, Harrow etc. > > thanks for clarification, for those interested in further info: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_school_(United_Kingdom) > > > The state_school article ( > h

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Government sounds good to me. It works for either local or national government. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/11/2012 12:40 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/11/26 Philip Barnes : > In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, such as > Eaton, Harrow etc. thanks f

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/26 Philip Barnes : > In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, such as > Eaton, Harrow etc. thanks for clarification, for those interested in further info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_school_(United_Kingdom) The state_school article ( http://en.wikipedia.

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, such as Eaton, Harrow etc. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/11/2012 12:24 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/11/26 Philip Barnes : > Have we an alternative? Could you expand on what is the problem with "public"? cheers,

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/26 Philip Barnes : > Have we an alternative? Could you expand on what is the problem with "public"? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Have we an alternative? Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/11/2012 12:19 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/11/26 John F. Eldredge : > Philip Barnes wrote: >> I would avoid public, when tagging schools as it had very different >> meanings on each side of the Atlantic. >> I would suggest state

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/26 John F. Eldredge : > Philip Barnes wrote: >> I would avoid public, when tagging schools as it had very different >> meanings on each side of the Atlantic. >> I would suggest state and private. > Of course, the term "state" will also likely be misunderstood by some > American mappers, a

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
Philip Barnes wrote: > I would avoid public, when tagging schools as it had very different > meanings on each side of the Atlantic. > > I would suggest state and private. > > Phil > -- > > Sent from my Nokia N9 > > > > On 25/11/2012 23:58 Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > Is this information

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
I would avoid public, when tagging schools as it had very different meanings on each side of the Atlantic. I would suggest state and private. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 25/11/2012 23:58 Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Is this information something that should be placed in a geodatabase l

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-11-26 at 08:07:58 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: > To be honest, I'm not sure I even see the value in coding year groups - > what does "year_group=7-12" tell you that "Blah Blah High School" doesn't? > The use case of a parent choosing where to send their kids is such a rare > one, and involve

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-25 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Is this information something that should be placed in a geodatabase like OSM? Or would this be better integrated into a separate school database. Maybe OpenSchoolDirectory? In that kind of database, you can include lots of information such as who is the principal, who operates the school, if the

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-25 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
Didn't know proposals made on talk pages would be valid. - Svavar On 25/11/12 22:02, Colin Smale wrote: > Take a look at the discussions on this page: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dschool > > Min_age and max_age are already proposed there, as is the use of the > UN class

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-25 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
Hi. Like I stated in the proposal, it varies a lot between countries. I agree that there are different systems determining when children get into schools and here in Iceland it's defined as a year group. However, some countries have cut off dates which don't comply with the almanac year so it's no

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-25 Thread Colin Smale
Take a look at the discussions on this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dschool Min_age and max_age are already proposed there, as is the use of the UN classifications (ISCED) for the level of education. So I'm afraid I will be voting against your proposal; not becaus

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-25 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi, With the exception of pre-schools, aren't most schools defined by the year group, rather than age? Around a here, a primary school is Prep to Grade 6, and high school is Year 7 to Year 12. The actual ranges of kids varies a bit - some skip years, some repeat. I can't see much use for coding a

[Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-24 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
Hi. The RFC process has started for my proposal to tag the age groups schools offer education for. More information is on the wiki page. The proposal is at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/age_group . With regards, Svavar Kjarrval