Re: [Tagging] RFC Tagging for complex junctions

2014-10-21 Thread fly
Am 18.10.2014 08:45, schrieb Lukas Sommer:
 Hello.
 
 The combined proposal for complex junctions and complex traffic signal
 systems had less support than I hoped (5 of 9 votes).
 
 Initially, I was thinking it was a good idea to treat these two features
 together. However, this was obviously not a good idea. It made the
 discussion harder. These two subjects seem to be to different to be
 treated together. So it seems to be better to split this into two
 different proposals: one for complex junctions and one for complex
 traffic signals.
 
 Today I start RFC for the complex junction tagging. A new proposal page
 has been created at
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions
 which takes into account the comments which have been made during the
 previous voting.

Please have a look at the proposal for highway=junction [1]. It
describes the same but with a different tag and the two proposal should
be merged.

Cheers fly

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=junction


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Re: [Tagging] RFC Tagging for complex junctions

2014-10-21 Thread Lukas Sommer
Yes, I’m aware of
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=junction

However,
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=junction
focuses on the tagging style of intersecting roads and proposes to not
connect them anymore and so avoid turn restrictions. But
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions
focuses on the junction area. I would prefer to keep both discussions
separate. (My first combined proposal for complex junctions and traffic
signals has shown that mixing up to much topics makes the discussion
harder.) However, I think both things are compatible.

Concerning the tag: junction=yes or highway=junction or something
completely different? The tag junction=yes is ugly, but currently yet in
use for simple junctions. If we decide to use highway=junction for the
area, we should use it also for the simple sections and move the existing
nodes with junction=yes to highway=junction. However, I’m open for both
solutions…

Lukas

Lukas Sommer

2014-10-21 16:00 GMT+00:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com:

 Am 18.10.2014 08:45, schrieb Lukas Sommer:
  Hello.
 
  The combined proposal for complex junctions and complex traffic signal
  systems had less support than I hoped (5 of 9 votes).
 
  Initially, I was thinking it was a good idea to treat these two features
  together. However, this was obviously not a good idea. It made the
  discussion harder. These two subjects seem to be to different to be
  treated together. So it seems to be better to split this into two
  different proposals: one for complex junctions and one for complex
  traffic signals.
 
  Today I start RFC for the complex junction tagging. A new proposal page
  has been created at
 
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions
  which takes into account the comments which have been made during the
  previous voting.

 Please have a look at the proposal for highway=junction [1]. It
 describes the same but with a different tag and the two proposal should
 be merged.

 Cheers fly

 [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=junction


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[Tagging] RFC Tagging for complex junctions

2014-10-18 Thread Lukas Sommer
Hello.

The combined proposal for complex junctions and complex traffic signal
systems had less support than I hoped (5 of 9 votes).

Initially, I was thinking it was a good idea to treat these two features
together. However, this was obviously not a good idea. It made the
discussion harder. These two subjects seem to be to different to be treated
together. So it seems to be better to split this into two different
proposals: one for complex junctions and one for complex traffic signals.

Today I start RFC for the complex junction tagging. A new proposal page has
been created at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex_junctions
which takes into account the comments which have been made during the
previous voting.

Best regards

Lukas Sommer
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