Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/4 yve...@gmail.com yve...@gmail.com: There is already route=piste relations (the colors on the link provided). This is something else. what kind of objects do you propose would be grouped in these site relations, just the nordic piste or also connected services, hotels, etc.? I guess

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think relations are not applicable for this case. To me it seems as if you want to put everything from inside a village in one relation, because they are all in that village. That's just not how OSM works. Either that resort has borders, and you draw them, or the ski lifts and piste have the

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/4 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com: I think relations are not applicable for this case. To me it seems as if you want to put everything from inside a village in one relation, because they are all in that village. That's just not how OSM works. Either that resort has borders, and you draw

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/2/4 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com if they don't have a common operator and the resort doesn't have a border (i.e. it isn't an area but a mixture of areas and routes) you cannot map them? Btw.: the OP is asking for nordic pistes, so there won't necessarily be any lifts.

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Ronnie Soak
2013/2/4 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com 2013/2/4 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com if they don't have a common operator and the resort doesn't have a border (i.e. it isn't an area but a mixture of areas and routes) you cannot map them? Btw.: the OP is asking for nordic pistes, so

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/2/4 Ronnie Soak chaoschaos0...@googlemail.com Works exactly as long as no piste belongs to more than one resort. If anyone does, you still need to switch to relations. I don't know about nordic pistes, but there are definitely lifts for alpine pistes that are used by visitors of two ski

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread yvecai
Janko, to group a bunch of elements into a relation or add same a tag to all these elements is not quite the same. A relation carry a meaning (type), while with all these tags, It's seems to me just a collection that you can find with a query :) (Actually, we all know that both are technically

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Ronnie Soak
2013/2/4 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com 2013/2/4 Ronnie Soak chaoschaos0...@googlemail.com Works exactly as long as no piste belongs to more than one resort. If anyone does, you still need to switch to relations. I don't know about nordic pistes, but there are definitely lifts for alpine

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 04.02.2013 19:00, schrieb yvecai: Janko, to group a bunch of elements into a relation or add same a tag to all these elements is not quite the same. A relation carry a meaning (type), while with all these tags, It's seems to me just a collection that you can find with a query :) (Actually,

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread yvecai
On 02/04/2013 08:26 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote: ... There is always an overpass query for every need :) Anyway, these site=piste relation members would simply be related by ... ski. Minimal tagging would be: type=site site=piste piste:type=nordic or type=site site=piste

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/2/4 yvecai yve...@gmail.com: Anyway, these site=piste relation members would simply be related by ... ski. Minimal tagging would be: type=site site=piste piste:type=nordic or type=site site=piste piste:type=downhill Then, optionnally, name, operator, url. aren't there resorts

[Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-03 Thread yve...@gmail.com
There is already route=piste relations (the colors on the link provided). This is something else. Yves - Reply message - De : Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Pour : Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Objet : [Tagging] Ski resort (once again)