Re: [Tagging] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

On 10/29/2014 09:34 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
 * The tag tourism=bed_and_breakfast is no longer rendered - please use
 tourism=guest_house instead.

Well - it might be your decision what to render and what not, but you
shouldn't go so far as to request that people misrepresent reality in
their mapping.

A private residence where a single bedroom is made available to tourists
is certainly no guest house and shouldn't be tagged as such! It is,
and remains, a bed_and_breakfast.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Tagging] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-29 Thread Dan S
Frederik,

The tagging and the wiki have been that way for many years.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bed_and_breakfast

I share your discomfort, since I think of a BB as a different thing
from a guesthouse. But over the years I've ended up using this tagging
since it's documented and appears to be how people tag. I guess it's
not Matthijs who made this decision...

Best
Dan

2014-10-29 20:55 GMT+00:00 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
 Hi,

 On 10/29/2014 09:34 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
 * The tag tourism=bed_and_breakfast is no longer rendered - please use
 tourism=guest_house instead.

 Well - it might be your decision what to render and what not, but you
 shouldn't go so far as to request that people misrepresent reality in
 their mapping.

 A private residence where a single bedroom is made available to tourists
 is certainly no guest house and shouldn't be tagged as such! It is,
 and remains, a bed_and_breakfast.

 Bye
 Frederik

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Re: [Tagging] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-29 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 29 October 2014 20:59, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess it's not Matthijs who made this decision...

That's correct. See
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/695 for more
details.

-- Matthijs

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Re: [Tagging] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.23.0

2014-10-29 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 29 October 2014, Dan S wrote:

 The tagging and the wiki have been that way for many years.
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bed_and_breakfast

Well - not exactly, this redirect as well as the removal of 
tourism=bed_and_breakfast as an alternative from 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dguest_house has been 
done about a year ago.  There is 'Deprecated' noted on 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Atourism%3Dbed_and_breakfast

but without there having been a proposal to deprecate it.

tourism=bed_and_breakfast exists 609 times at the moment, 
guest_house=bed_and_breakfast 154 times.

Generally given the huge influence the standard style has on mapping and 
that a lot of people articulated the need to differenciate between BB 
and larger guest houses in discussions i agree this change indeed is 
probably not to the better.

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