Re: [Tagging] Simple Indoor Tagging

2014-09-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-09-22 1:43 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:


 wouldn't there typically be direct entrances and no corridors? I think if
 you are at this level of detail we could expect that you add the poi as a
 polygon, rather than adding nonexistent corridors ;-)



I guess you're right. Corridor looks wrong to me too, but indoor=door,
indoor=room or indoor=you_are_already_here looked even worse. I guess
drawing a little approximate rectangle isn't that bad.

Janko
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Re: [Tagging] Simple Indoor Tagging

2014-09-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
I've been thinking recently about simplified indoor tagging. I've made the
next picture:

http://i.imgur.com/V09c2KG.png

We have two shops and three entrances, and it would be nice to know which
entrances lead to which shops. Full indoor tagging would mean that we
should draw rooms for both shops, but what if an average mapper doesn't
want to draw all rooms for all shops? Would it be OK to tag the red lines
as indoor=corridor?

I'll be looking at this proposal a bit more, but for now it looks great.

Janko

2014-09-21 3:57 GMT+02:00 Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl:

 On 20 September 2014 11:11, Peter Barth osm-tagg...@won2.de wrote:
  starting after the SOTM-EU we've worked hard on a new proposal for
  indoor tagging: Simple Indoor Tagging. The Proposal can be found here:
  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_Indoor_Tagging

 Thanks for your efforts. Two points:

 - Should the level tags be subsequent numerical values, or the level
 names signposted in the building (for instance in the lifts)? In
 England, levels are often named basement/lower ground/upper ground
 floor. In Germany, I have seen buildings that distinguish floor 0 and
 floor -0. If a building starts with for instance Ground, Mezzanine,
 Floor 1, Floor 2, then it might be confusing to use levels 0, 1, 2, 3
 for that, as then each level key would be off by one with the signed
 level. Why not use level for signposted levels and layer for a
 numerical order?

 - What is the reason for using indoor=corridor rather than
 highway=footway and stairs=* rather than highway=steps? Can a way have
 both tags? Sometimes routing through shopping malls is optimal even
 for long-distance foot routing, so it would be nice if regular routers
 could keep make use of such footways.

 -- Matthijs

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Re: [Tagging] Simple Indoor Tagging

2014-09-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer




 Il giorno 21/set/2014, alle ore 22:51, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com ha 
 scritto:
 
 Would it be OK to tag the red lines as indoor=corridor?


wouldn't there typically be direct entrances and no corridors? I think if you 
are at this level of detail we could expect that you add the poi as a polygon, 
rather than adding nonexistent corridors ;-)

cheers,
Martin 
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[Tagging] Simple Indoor Tagging

2014-09-20 Thread Peter Barth
Hi,

starting after the SOTM-EU we've worked hard on a new proposal for 
indoor tagging: Simple Indoor Tagging. The Proposal can be found here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_Indoor_Tagging

We think that this proposal is simple and holistic at once and ready to
be used. Anyhow, we'd like to hear your opinion if there's something we
missed. Please comment either here, at the proposal's discussion page or
in the original thread in the forum 
(http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=451544).

Peda

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Re: [Tagging] Simple Indoor Tagging

2014-09-20 Thread Dave Swarthout
This looks like a great piece of work. Thank you for your efforts.

I would like to suggest somehow adding access to your proposal (as a level
subkey?). Many times there are levels in a building that are restricted for
one reason or another and it would help to know which these are. From the
examples it would seem there is a way to add a name to a level but it's not
clear to me how one would go about tagging it. Access could be added in a
similar fashion.

Cheers,

Dave

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Peter Barth osm-tagg...@won2.de wrote:

 Hi,

 starting after the SOTM-EU we've worked hard on a new proposal for
 indoor tagging: Simple Indoor Tagging. The Proposal can be found here:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_Indoor_Tagging

 We think that this proposal is simple and holistic at once and ready to
 be used. Anyhow, we'd like to hear your opinion if there's something we
 missed. Please comment either here, at the proposal's discussion page or
 in the original thread in the forum (
 http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=451544).

 Peda

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Re: [Tagging] Simple Indoor Tagging

2014-09-20 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 20 September 2014 11:11, Peter Barth osm-tagg...@won2.de wrote:
 starting after the SOTM-EU we've worked hard on a new proposal for
 indoor tagging: Simple Indoor Tagging. The Proposal can be found here:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_Indoor_Tagging

Thanks for your efforts. Two points:

- Should the level tags be subsequent numerical values, or the level
names signposted in the building (for instance in the lifts)? In
England, levels are often named basement/lower ground/upper ground
floor. In Germany, I have seen buildings that distinguish floor 0 and
floor -0. If a building starts with for instance Ground, Mezzanine,
Floor 1, Floor 2, then it might be confusing to use levels 0, 1, 2, 3
for that, as then each level key would be off by one with the signed
level. Why not use level for signposted levels and layer for a
numerical order?

- What is the reason for using indoor=corridor rather than
highway=footway and stairs=* rather than highway=steps? Can a way have
both tags? Sometimes routing through shopping malls is optimal even
for long-distance foot routing, so it would be nice if regular routers
could keep make use of such footways.

-- Matthijs

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