Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 08:07, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 22:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> >> Something to do with kangaroos, is my guess. >>> >> >> Check 1:53 & a few seconds after! :-) >> > > You seem to have forgotten to give a URL. > Damn! Obviously need more coffee!

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-09 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 22:54, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Something to do with kangaroos, is my guess. >> > > Check 1:53 & a few seconds after! :-) > You seem to have forgotten to give a URL. No problem. There's a timestamp, so it's going to be youtube. All I have to do is google for youtube

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-09 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 23:33, Paul Allen wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 23:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> >> but regardless of that, I'd like to know what an >> >>> Independent, ‘Australian-style’, or artisan cafes >>> >> Australian-style cafe is, & how our's differ from everywhere else? >>

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-09 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 23:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > but regardless of that, I'd like to know what an > >> Independent, ‘Australian-style’, or artisan cafes >> > Australian-style cafe is, & how our's differ from everywhere else? > Something to do with kangaroos, is my guess. -- Paul

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
Thanks! Graeme On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 at 08:13, Jake Edmonds via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Sorry Graeme, that should have said American style, where the waitress is > refilling mugs from a carafe > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@open

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
Sorry Graeme, that should have said American style, where the waitress is refilling mugs from a carafe Sent from Jake Edmonds' iPhone > On 8 Jul 2020, at 23:04, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > >  > > > > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 19:22, Jake Edmonds via Tagging > wrote: > > I've got to say tha

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 19:22, Jake Edmonds via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: I've got to say that personally, I don't think there's a need for a separate "speciality" tag, but regardless of that, I'd like to know what an > Independent, ‘Australian-style’, or artisan cafes > Australia

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 14:34, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 8. Jul 2020, at 15:06, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > My questions are along the lines of "Is there any sort of coffee shop or > > cafe in this village?" rather than "Does it sell really expensive > coffee?" > > you might want to exclud

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Johan Jönsson via Tagging
A reasonable simple tagging would be:amenity=café and cuisine=special_coffee So you would replace the tag coffee_house with speciality_coffee I hope that won't be too much of a nuisance as it still have the very common tag: café If it is a node with an abundance of tags, I suggest using drink:sp

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
> On 8 Jul 2020, at 14:01, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > > Jake Edmonds via Tagging: > >> Maybe that’s true but if people are looking for it, it should be searchable? > > Then we need something objective. > Maybe coffee_species or coffee_brand > in the same way that we have breweries for rest

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
Martin Koppenhoefer: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 8. Jul 2020, at 15:04, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: >> >> €20 espressos in Venice should quality. But I am not so sure about the >> specialty. I see that I made a typo. I meant "should qualify". > > > it’s not as if a coffee in Venice cost

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8. Jul 2020, at 15:06, Paul Allen wrote: > > My questions are along the lines of "Is there any sort of coffee shop or > cafe in this village?" rather than "Does it sell really expensive coffee?" you might want to exclude those places from your search where a cup of cof

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8. Jul 2020, at 15:04, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > > €20 espressos in Venice should quality. But I am not so sure about the > specialty. it’s not as if a coffee in Venice costs 20€ a cup, you will get good coffee for 1€ in any normal bar. It costs 20€ if you sit on

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8. Jul 2020, at 14:00, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > > We also do not have special tags for specialty wine or whiskey or bread. > For food we do have start but only stars that are awarded by recognised > tourism boards. we do have shop=deli while you’re right that mic

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 13:15, Jake Edmonds via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: On 8 Jul 2020, at 13:08, Paul Allen wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 13:00, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > > In short, how would we deal with verifiability requirement? >> > > Price, maybe. Specialty coffe

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
Jake Edmonds via Tagging: >> >> Price, maybe. Specialty coffee (or anything else) costs more.  However, >> blind tasting of wine has shown that perceived quality is strongly >> influenced by presentation (if it looks expensive, people think it >> tastes better). > > Maybe that’s true but if peopl

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
> On 8 Jul 2020, at 12:58, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > > Jake Edmonds via Tagging: >> ‘Specialty coffee is a term for the highest grade of coffee available, > > > microbrewery beer is not necessarily special or better. It is made on the > premises. Of

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
> On 8 Jul 2020, at 13:08, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 13:00, Niels Elgaard Larsen <mailto:elga...@agol.dk>> wrote: > Jake Edmonds via Tagging: > > ‘Specialty coffee is a term for the highest grade of coffee available, > > Specialty coffee is

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Paul Allen
On Wed, 8 Jul 2020 at 13:00, Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > Jake Edmonds via Tagging: > > ‘Specialty coffee is a term for the highest grade of coffee available, > > Specialty coffee is just about the quality and price which is very > subjective. > +1 > > In sh

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jul 8, 2020, 11:20 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > exceptional quality coffee, both farmed and brewed to a significantly higher > than average standard. > (...) > Are suggestions?  > Sounds like poorly defined marketing term or something that will quickly degrade into it, with Starbucks offe

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Niels Elgaard Larsen
Jake Edmonds via Tagging: > ‘Specialty coffee is a term for the highest grade of coffee available, microbrewery beer is not necessarily special or better. It is made on the premises. Specialty coffee is just about the quality and price which is very subjective. We also do not have spec

Re: [Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 8. Jul 2020, at 11:22, Jake Edmonds via Tagging > wrote: > > Other tags: > microroasting=yes has 64 uses, mainly on amenity=cafe, in the same way > microbrewery=yes is used for pubs. there is also craft=coffee_roasting 1 occurrence, but seems suitable: https://taginf

[Tagging] Specialty Coffee

2020-07-08 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
‘Specialty coffee is a term for the highest grade of coffee available, typically relating to the entire supply chain, using single origin or single estate coffee[1][2]. The term was first used in 1974 by Erna Knutsen in an issue of Tea & Coffee Trade Journal. Knutsen used specialty coffee to des