Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 171 Path for all
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:49 AM St Niklaas wrote: > Hi All, > > > > IMHO it is never a well taken decision to tag a path / bridleway for > walking or pedestrians at the same time. Ill shut up when walking a path > and Equestrians have been using the same trail or path, a horseshoe tends > to spoil the surface ruinous. Only a rocky hillside trail could stand it. > > I would not consider a bridleway as anything else despite Andy’s opinion. > Around here ( Northern Colorado, US) there are a lot of trails where horses (really "stock" as people are allowed to hike with their llamas and alpacas which they use to carry their gear) and at least one other mode of travel is allowed (e.g. hiking, running, biking). These trails are often extensively used by people utilizing all allowed modes of travel. Yes, intensive use by horses can tear up the trail, as can use by other modes of travel. However, these rough trails are considered part of the experience. There are often nearby alternatives for those looking for a smoother/easier walking experience. Mike ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 171 Path for all
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 02:12, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 15:49, St Niklaas wrote: > >> >> >> IMHO it is never a well taken decision to tag a path / bridleway for >> walking or pedestrians at the same time. Ill shut up when walking a path >> and Equestrians have been using the same trail or path, a horseshoe tends >> to spoil the surface ruinous. Only a rocky hillside trail could stand it. >> >> I would not consider a bridleway as anything else despite Andy’s opinion. >> > > bridleways may be used by pedestrians and cyclists as well > as by equestrians. Some bridleways may not be suitable for all > pedestrians, > but legally they are permitted to at least try to use them. > In our Hinterland, which is heavily forested, at least some of the fire trails (usually quite, to very!, rough vehicle tracks intended for use by Rural Fire Service / National Parks to be able get in to fight bush fires in inaccessible areas) are signposted as equestrian & cycle paths, but make absolutely no mention of walkers, either allowing or forbidding? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 171 Path for all
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 15:49, St Niklaas wrote: > > > IMHO it is never a well taken decision to tag a path / bridleway for > walking or pedestrians at the same time. Ill shut up when walking a path > and Equestrians have been using the same trail or path, a horseshoe tends > to spoil the surface ruinous. Only a rocky hillside trail could stand it. > > I would not consider a bridleway as anything else despite Andy’s opinion. > As far as the UK goes (other jurisdictions may differ) Andy's opinion is backed up by https://naturenet.net/row/rowdefinitions.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridle_path amongst others. Legally, in the UK, bridleways may be used by pedestrians and cyclists as well as by equestrians. Some bridleways may not be suitable for all pedestrians, but legally they are permitted to at least try to use them. Maybe we need something analogous to horse_scale and sac_scale (or maybe sac_scale could be used) to indicate that while pedestrians have legal access it is not suitable for most pedestrians. I'll leave that to others to decide. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 171 Path for all
Hi All, IMHO it is never a well taken decision to tag a path / bridleway for walking or pedestrians at the same time. Ill shut up when walking a path and Equestrians have been using the same trail or path, a horseshoe tends to spoil the surface ruinous. Only a rocky hillside trail could stand it. I would not consider a bridleway as anything else despite Andy’s opinion. Greetz ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging