Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 171 Path for all

2020-02-01 Thread Mike Thompson
On Sat, Feb 1, 2020 at 8:49 AM St Niklaas  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> IMHO it is never a well taken decision to tag a path / bridleway for
> walking or pedestrians at the same time. Ill shut up when walking a path
> and Equestrians have been using the same trail or path, a horseshoe tends
> to spoil the surface ruinous. Only a rocky hillside trail could stand it.
>
> I would not consider a bridleway as anything else despite Andy’s opinion.
>
Around here ( Northern Colorado, US) there are a lot of trails where horses
(really "stock" as people are allowed to hike with their llamas and alpacas
which they use to carry their gear) and at least one other mode of travel
is allowed (e.g. hiking, running, biking).  These trails are often
extensively used by people utilizing all allowed modes of travel.  Yes,
intensive use by horses can tear up the trail, as can use by other modes of
travel.  However, these rough trails  are considered part of the
experience.  There are often nearby alternatives for those looking for a
smoother/easier walking experience.

Mike
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Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 171 Path for all

2020-02-01 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 2 Feb 2020 at 02:12, Paul Allen  wrote:

> On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 15:49, St Niklaas  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> IMHO it is never a well taken decision to tag a path / bridleway for
>> walking or pedestrians at the same time. Ill shut up when walking a path
>> and Equestrians have been using the same trail or path, a horseshoe tends
>> to spoil the surface ruinous. Only a rocky hillside trail could stand it.
>>
>> I would not consider a bridleway as anything else despite Andy’s opinion.
>>
>
> bridleways may be used by pedestrians and cyclists as well
> as by equestrians.  Some bridleways may not be suitable for all
> pedestrians,
> but legally they are permitted to at least try to use them.
>

In our Hinterland, which is heavily forested, at least some of the fire
trails (usually quite, to very!, rough vehicle tracks intended for use by
Rural Fire Service / National Parks to be able get in to fight bush fires
in inaccessible areas) are signposted as equestrian & cycle paths, but make
absolutely no mention of walkers, either allowing or forbidding?


Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 171 Path for all

2020-02-01 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 15:49, St Niklaas  wrote:

>
>
> IMHO it is never a well taken decision to tag a path / bridleway for
> walking or pedestrians at the same time. Ill shut up when walking a path
> and Equestrians have been using the same trail or path, a horseshoe tends
> to spoil the surface ruinous. Only a rocky hillside trail could stand it.
>
> I would not consider a bridleway as anything else despite Andy’s opinion.
>

As far as the UK goes (other jurisdictions may differ) Andy's opinion is
backed up
by https://naturenet.net/row/rowdefinitions.html and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridle_path amongst others.

Legally, in the UK, bridleways may be used by pedestrians and cyclists as
well
as by equestrians.  Some bridleways may not be suitable for all pedestrians,
but legally they are permitted to at least try to use them.  Maybe we need
something analogous to horse_scale and sac_scale (or maybe sac_scale
could be used) to indicate that while pedestrians have legal access it is
not suitable for most pedestrians.  I'll leave that to others to decide.

-- 
Paul
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Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 171 Path for all

2020-02-01 Thread St Niklaas
Hi All,



IMHO it is never a well taken decision to tag a path / bridleway for walking or 
pedestrians at the same time. Ill shut up when walking a path and Equestrians 
have been using the same trail or path, a horseshoe tends to spoil the surface 
ruinous. Only a rocky hillside trail could stand it.

I would not consider a bridleway as anything else despite Andy’s opinion.



Greetz

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