Re: [Tagging] Tagging for a pack station?
Here's an example pack station: http://www.kennedymeadows.com/ I'd say the horse operation is first a *coral*. Second it is the type of coral that has *offerings for the public.* And third it offers *cargo transport via horse.* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Riding as you noted use a more direct approach with a tourism=trail_riding_station, the problem being that it is often not clear what the most important of several services at such location is. Is the trail ride operation the most important? The cargo operation? If you can tag it first as a horse operation with public services and subtag for the cargo services, I think you're on a good track. Not attempting to follow existing convention it might look like: amenity=stable access=customers services=day trips; cargo dropoff; overnight trips; instruction; feed animal_boarding=horse feeding:for=horse website=http://www.example.com/ With both free form services offered, and certain developed tags like feeding:for. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging for a pack station?
Thank you for the suggestion. Turns out that the operation at Kennedy Meadows is quite a bit bigger with restaurant, lodging, store, etc. That is up the highway from the one I'm tagging but I'm following your suggestion minus the animal_boarding, feeding, etc. as it appears from the operator's web site that they are set up to care for their stock only. -Tod On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Here's an example pack station: http://www.kennedymeadows.com/ I'd say the horse operation is first a coral. Second it is the type of coral that has offerings for the public. And third it offers cargo transport via horse. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Riding as you noted use a more direct approach with a tourism=trail_riding_station, the problem being that it is often not clear what the most important of several services at such location is. Is the trail ride operation the most important? The cargo operation? If you can tag it first as a horse operation with public services and subtag for the cargo services, I think you're on a good track. Not attempting to follow existing convention it might look like: amenity=stable access=customers services=day trips; cargo dropoff; overnight trips; instruction; feed animal_boarding=horse feeding:for=horse website=http://www.example.com/ With both free form services offered, and certain developed tags like feeding:for. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging for a pack station?
Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Here's an example pack station: http://www.kennedymeadows.com/ I'd say the horse operation is first a *coral*. Second it is the type of coral that has *offerings for the public.* And third it offers *cargo transport via horse.* http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Riding as you noted use a more direct approach with a tourism=trail_riding_station, the problem being that it is often not clear what the most important of several services at such location is. Is the trail ride operation the most important? The cargo operation? If you can tag it first as a horse operation with public services and subtag for the cargo services, I think you're on a good track. Not attempting to follow existing convention it might look like: amenity=stable access=customers services=day trips; cargo dropoff; overnight trips; instruction; feed animal_boarding=horse feeding:for=horse website=http://www.example.com/ With both free form services offered, and certain developed tags like feeding:for. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging I believe you mean corral, rather than coral. A corral is a fenced enclosure for horses. Coral is a kind of rock formed by a colony of soft-bodied animals. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Tagging for a pack station?
(response to message archived at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-August/014639.html ) I took a look around and likely the closest match, albeit still a far one, would be Trail riding station which is listed among features on the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Riding . It is telling that though there are ~500 used instances of route=horse, there are no instances for either route=mule, route=donkey or route=pack_animal. So I think that the whole matter of mapping verrry rugged terrain where only pack animals have a reasonable chance of traversing terrain is relatively un-addressed so far. In the case you are looking at, what type of route are you working with? Does it have a designated or preferred animal permissive? Or is it a standard horse route which would be tagged with smoothness=impassable and surface=ground? --ceyockey ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging for a pack station?
Hi, Interesting. Sounds like the equivalent of a hostel or mountain hut used by hikers or skiers but for equistrians. I don't know much about horses or the facilities for them. I know there are several buildings at the place I want to map one of which has been called a bunk house and another that looks like it is for storage. And there are some corrals. The road to the facility is closed in winter in an area I do some ski touring and would like to properly map, more for skiing than for summer use and the site is a definite landmark. I looked at the business's website and it appears that they do guided day trips as well as the more traditional freight hauling so riding stables might be appropriate for some of the function. But it does not appear that they will board horses that don't belong to them nor do they have overnight facilities for the riders. If my reading of the trail riding station page is accurate, it seems that would rule out that tagging for this facility. Thank you for the suggestion, -Tod On Aug 30, 2013, at 2:36 PM, dies38...@mypacks.net wrote: (response to message archived at http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2013-August/014639.html ) I took a look around and likely the closest match, albeit still a far one, would be Trail riding station which is listed among features on the page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Riding . It is telling that though there are ~500 used instances of route=horse, there are no instances for either route=mule, route=donkey or route=pack_animal. So I think that the whole matter of mapping verrry rugged terrain where only pack animals have a reasonable chance of traversing terrain is relatively un-addressed so far. In the case you are looking at, what type of route are you working with? Does it have a designated or preferred animal permissive? Or is it a standard horse route which would be tagged with smoothness=impassable and surface=ground? --ceyockey ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] Tagging for a pack station?
ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pack_station I assume it should be tourism=something but what the something is is not obvious. Nothing shows in the wiki or taginfo that I can see or outfitter or pack_station, etc. From Wikipedia, it seems this might be a regional name but the hints on what this is called elsewhere did not help me much either. Thanks! Tod ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
