Am 18.05.2012 um 16:11 schrieb Josh Doe :
> While the "Possible misinterpretations" section is great, I think most
> people will find it to be too long and won't read it. I think it might
> belong on a separate page rather than on one tag page or on all (via a
> template).
I would really like to a
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Martin Vonwald wrote:
> 2012/5/18 Josh Doe :
>> I've created a wiki page for highway=turning_loop:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dturning_loop
>
> Thanks for that. Do you think it would be a good idea to put the
> section "Possible misinterpret
2012/5/18 Josh Doe :
> I've created a wiki page for highway=turning_loop:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dturning_loop
Thanks for that. Do you think it would be a good idea to put the
section "Possible misinterpretations" also into this article? If so, I
would move the text into
Josh Doe wrote:
> I better not get on my soapbox about how we need the
> OSM.org stylesheet to be located on GitHub, and to use
> Carto so people can use TileMill for designing.
I don't think anyone disagrees with you. It's just that soapboxes don't in
themselves produce code. Why not start a pr
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Josh Doe wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Martin Vonwald wrote:
>> I added highway=turning_loop to the last example and noted, that it is
>> under discussion right now.
>
> I've changed all my junction=roundabout + note=turning_loop to be
> highway=turni
On 15/05/12 14:46, Anthony wrote:
> I'd prefer highway=turning_loop. I think it'll be more noticeable.
> But either solution is fine. Purists can easily go through and
> convert them, if they care.
+1
> Sorting turning loops from turning circles can be time-consuming. So
> it's nice to have a
* Martin Vonwald [2012-05-15 15:23 +0200]:
> I added highway=turning_loop to the last example and noted, that it is
> under discussion right now.
>
> It would really help a lot if the major renderers would support this,
> as well as junction=roundabout on a single node. Otherwise I'm afraid
> the
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Martin Vonwald wrote:
> I added highway=turning_loop to the last example and noted, that it is
> under discussion right now.
I've changed all my junction=roundabout + note=turning_loop to be
highway=turning_loop now.
> It would really help a lot if the major rend
I added highway=turning_loop to the last example and noted, that it is
under discussion right now.
It would really help a lot if the major renderers would support this,
as well as junction=roundabout on a single node. Otherwise I'm afraid
the acceptance would be rather low.
Thanks!
Martin
2012/5
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Martin Vonwald wrote:
> Now the only issue remaining is: how? Right now I see two solutions:
> 1) highway=turning_circle and turning_circle=island or traffic_calming=island
> 2) new tag like e.g. highway=turning_loop
>
> The problem with 1 is that the turning_circl
* Martin Vonwald [2012-05-15 14:11 +0200]:
> Now the only issue remaining is: how? Right now I see two solutions:
> 1) highway=turning_circle and turning_circle=island or traffic_calming=island
> 2) new tag like e.g. highway=turning_loop
[snip]
> I would really like to get more opinions from the p
2012/5/15 Pieren :
> Btw, current wiki description is funny : "place to turn around .. but
> it is not a turning circle".
Well, that's why it is in the "Danger of confusion" section ;-)
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2012/5/15 Martin Koppenhoefer :
> 2012/5/15 Pieren :
>> Imho, if you want to indicate a turning-circle island, it's
>> micro-mapping : you should better draw the loop geometry instead of
>> creating a tag for the geometry (in the same way we don't tag
>> roundabout flares, we draw separate carriage
2012/5/15 Pieren :
> Imho, if you want to indicate a turning-circle island, it's
> micro-mapping : you should better draw the loop geometry instead of
> creating a tag for the geometry (in the same way we don't tag
> roundabout flares, we draw separate carriageways if we want).
completely agree.
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Josh Doe wrote:
> Why don't we keep it simple and just use highway=turning_circle and
> turning_circle=island, since it's more akin to a turning_circle than a
> roundabout, and I doubt any data consumers other than rendering
> currently do anything with turning_ci
2012/5/15 Josh Doe :
>> The longer I think about it, the more I'm asking myself: do we really
>> need a tag for this? If someone doesn't want to map it as loop, why
>> not simply end the road without any additional tag? What information
>> are we missing then, that we are not missing if we use a si
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Martin Vonwald wrote:
> Correct - this needs some simplification just like allowing
> junction=roundabout on a node for small roundabouts. But I would
> really like to update the page before we talk about this, because
> otherwise the update won't be any time soon
2012/5/14 Nathan Edgars II :
> We're missing the fact that it's easy to turn around, and a car or bike
> doesn't have to make a three-point turn. This can be nice for biking for
> exercise.
This of course is without doubts true. But compare the amount of
details we loose in this simplification to
On 5/14/2012 11:02 AM, Martin Vonwald wrote:
The longer I think about it, the more I'm asking myself: do we really
need a tag for this? If someone doesn't want to map it as loop, why
not simply end the road without any additional tag? What information
are we missing then, that we are not missing
> It looks good to me, except for the last example of a "turning loop"
> as I've been calling it. We're going to have the same problem with
> this one, because they are abundant and very small, thus people will
> likely mis-tag it rather than drawing a tiny loop. When I fixed up
> some of westendgu
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Josh Doe wrote:
> It looks good to me, except for the last example of a "turning loop"
> as I've been calling it.
I should point out that there's been prior discussion of this without
resolution:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dturning_circl
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Martin Vonwald wrote:
> Hi!
>
> As promised I created a few (positive/negative) examples of
> roundabouts, mini-roundabouts and turning circles to prevent
> misinterpretations in the future. [...]
> You can find the examples here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wi
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