Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-23 Thread Mark Wagner
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 10:27:01 +1100 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 23/10/18 05:04, Yves wrote: > > Daniel, Mateusz and others: if nobody care to review those sub > > stations, this means they need care. > > That's more a concern than an old tag in the DB. > > You want them re tagged,

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Warin
On 23/10/18 05:04, Yves wrote: Daniel, Mateusz and others: if nobody care to review those sub stations, this means they need care. That's more a concern than an old tag in the DB. You want them re tagged, then advertise for this and bring other people into this, like in 'build a community' .

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Warin
On 23/10/18 07:53, marc marc wrote: Le 22. 10. 18 à 14:01, Dave Swarthout a écrit : Well, there you go. Mass edits are frowned upon even if the potential for making a mistake is low. Is it worse to have a few power=sub_station objects that should really be power=plant instead of an enormous

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread marc marc
Le 22. 10. 18 à 14:01, Dave Swarthout a écrit : > Well, there you go. Mass edits are frowned upon even if the potential > for making a mistake is low. Is it worse to have a few power=sub_station > objects that should really be power=plant instead of an enormous number > of objects with

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Yves
Daniel, Mateusz and others: if nobody care to review those sub stations, this means they need care. That's more a concern than an old tag in the DB. You want them re tagged, then advertise for this and bring other people into this, like in 'build a community' . Or do it automatically and let

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.10.2018 o 18:17, Mateusz Konieczny pisze: > I agree that manual review  of anything improbes map, but I am not sure > > why mistagged power=sub_station is better or worse than mistagged > > power=substation > I think that in this case automatic update is a victim of general thinking

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
22. Oct 2018 17:28 by frede...@remote.org : > On 10/22/18 11:03, François Lacombe wrote: >> Even if sub_station is often 1:1 of substation, this have to be replaced >> carefully since objects can have been mis tagged as power=sub_station. >> In France, last objects

[Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/22/18 11:03, François Lacombe wrote: > Even if sub_station is often 1:1 of substation, this have to be replaced > carefully since objects can have been mis tagged as power=sub_station. > In France, last objects where removed this summer. There was about 150 > of them and it was not so

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.10.2018 o 13:07, Volker Schmidt pisze: > Regarding sub_station, there seems to have been  a  revert three month > ago of the results of a maproulette task Thanks for the info - I have asked who complained, so we could talk. I also asked the author of the wiki warning against

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Dave Swarthout
Well, there you go. Mass edits are frowned upon even if the potential for making a mistake is low. Is it worse to have a few power=sub_station objects that should really be power=plant instead of an enormous number of objects with deprecated tags? Good question, but one that must remain academic

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread Volker Schmidt
Regarding sub_station, there seems to have been a revert three month ago of the results of a maproulette task sub_station > substation. according this changeset comment on one of the sub_station nodes in my area: "revert mechanical edit of

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-22 Thread François Lacombe
Hi, Thank you to talk about this. Definitely ok to retag remaining sub_station and station This helps a lot to clean up power=* key. Even if sub_station is often 1:1 of substation, this have to be replaced carefully since objects can have been mis tagged as power=sub_station. In France, last

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-21 Thread Warin
On 22/10/18 14:17, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 22.10.2018 o 05:06, Dave Swarthout pisze: It would seem an easy fix to change all power=sub_station tags to power=substation without an individual inspection. I'm surprised that automated conversion is discouraged on the wiki page in this case. Seems

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-21 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 22.10.2018 o 05:06, Dave Swarthout pisze: > It would seem an easy fix to change all power=sub_station tags to > power=substation without an individual inspection. I'm surprised that automated conversion is discouraged on the wiki page in this case. Seems like simple 1:1 objects mapping.

Re: [Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-21 Thread Dave Swarthout
It would seem an easy fix to change all power=sub_station tags to power=substation without an individual inspection. The other tag, power=station, is much more problematical because one cannot know for sure if that tag is correct. I think most new mappers already use the newer tagging guidelines

[Tagging] Upcoming removal of power=station and power=sub_station in the standard style

2018-10-21 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, It has been noted that we still render power=station and power=sub_station in OSM Carto, even if they are both deprecated and replacement tags are much more popular by now: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/3305#issuecomment-414058220 I would be happy to get rid of