Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-24 Thread Pee Wee
Thanks Hubert I've changed the use_sidepath https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath wiki so that it is clear that this is about cycleways that are drawn as a separate highway. 2014-10-23 22:55 GMT+02:00 Hubert sg.fo...@gmx.de: I meant the two pages:

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-23 Thread Pee Wee
Thanks all for your reactions. I also think that the most changes made to wiki are made in good faith and with good intentions and that is to improve OSM. This even goes for Ulamm. He also wants to improve OSM but it is just the way he does this that gets me irritated. Most of us (I guess) do

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-23 Thread Hubert
I meant the two pages: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Bicycle/Radverkehrsanlagen_kartieren and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:De:Description:Cycleway:Track which is linked to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:cycleway Sorry for the confusion.

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-21 Thread Pee Wee
Well... here's my experience with user Ulamm. He sure has taken away part of the fun it was contributing to this project. I've noticed he made some changes to the use_sidepath http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath wiki. I asked him in a private mail for the reason of the

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-21 Thread fly
+10 It is frustrating and I only rarely change the wiki. I always try to be polite and get into contact but only once. If there is no real reaction and only more pages are changed or directly changed after the revert, I would revert them all immediately as it is a problem if wrong/undiscussed

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-10-21 18:52 GMT+02:00 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: it is a problem if wrong/undiscussed changes are spread. while I agree, I'd like to point out that this is not an isolated problem with a single user, it is systematically happening all the time. I believe that the overwhelming

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-21 Thread Hubert
Pre up: I have worked with him on the soft_lane proposal - results pending. I think his intentions are good and that he just takes the be bold part of the wiki too seriously, or the changes he makes are too large. That said, I believe that talking to others is an important part of a Community

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-08 Thread Hubert
Thanks for the help and the links. That was my opinion, too. I asked, because the use is not clear by just reading the definition and not looking at the examples. highway=road + cycleway=track + bicycle=use_sidepath together, without an additional highway=cycleway OSMWay (for example) seem

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-08 Thread Pee Wee
If I understand correctly you say it would be better if the wiki stated that the compulsory cycleway is drawn as a separte way. I think you are right. I could changed that in the wiki. Unfortunately the user Ulamm has changed the wiki (for the worse in my opinion) so I'll send him an email before

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-08 Thread Hubert
Thanks a lot, and yes You understood me correctly. Regards Hubert From: Pee Wee [mailto:piewi...@gmail.com] Sent: Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2014 12:48 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page If I understand correctly you say it would

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-08 Thread 715371
Hi, May be you could link to cycleway:mandatory, too. Which would give a reference to the analog usage if there is cycleway=* used on the road. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway But I do not know whether there is a proposition page for cycleway:mandatory. So maybe this tag should

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-08 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
It is perfectly fine to revert somebody. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BOLD,_revert,_discuss_cycle 2014-10-08 12:48 GMT+02:00 Pee Wee piewi...@gmail.com: If I understand correctly you say it would be better if the wiki stated that the compulsory cycleway is drawn as a separte way.

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-08 Thread Pee Wee
I''ll wait till the edit war is over before I make any changes. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepathaction=history Apparently it is very difficult to discuss prior to making changes. Cheers PeeWee32 2014-10-08 14:18 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-07 Thread Hubert
] Sent: Samstag, 4. Oktober 2014 20:05 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page Hi, I want to mention that user ulamm is not just doing vandalism on the osm-db, but also on the wiki. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aaccessdiff=1076

Re: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-07 Thread Marc Gemis
@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Tagging] Vandalis on access page Hi, I want to mention that user ulamm is not just doing vandalism on the osm-db, but also on the wiki. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aaccessdiff=1076 542oldid=1076413 He is changing the information

[Tagging] Vandalis on access page

2014-10-04 Thread 715371
Hi, I want to mention that user ulamm is not just doing vandalism on the osm-db, but also on the wiki. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key%3Aaccessdiff=1076542oldid=1076413 He is changing the information for Germany, where this is not true so far as I know. Now he is claiming