Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Dec 2019, at 14:09, Florimond Berthoux > wrote: > > Well, I don’t know what the french law say, but that’s not an issue, > we don’t tag the law ;) > I’m really here just to know the english word. > In France we also say "vélo cargo" (cargo bike), so I’d go for >

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-21 Thread Volker Schmidt
Please keep in mind that in the EU the border between bicycle and (small) motorcycle is between Pedelec (a bicycle) and S-Pedelec (a small motorcycle). And cargo-bikes come in both flavours here. As said before, access tags in Osm are describing the legal access situation. BUT I'm pointing this

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-21 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
20 Dec 2019, 14:07 by florimond.berth...@gmail.com: > Well, I don’t know what the french law say, but that’s not an issue, > we don’t tag the law ;) > I’m really here just to know the english word. > In France we also say "vélo cargo" (cargo bike), so I’d go for > cargo_bike if none disapprove

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-21 Thread Jan Michel
I agree that "cargo_bike" is a nice word for this kind of vehicle. However, I would like to point out that the term 'bike' is not very common in OSM, mostly due to the ambiguity between 'bicycle' and 'motorcycle'. To prevent this, we should think about building a tag around the terms bicycle and

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-20 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
+1 for "cargo_bike", including cargo tricycles and pedalled electric bicycles and trikes. On 12/20/19, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Florimond Berthoux wrote: >> I’m really here just to know the english word. >> In France we also say "vélo cargo" (cargo bike), so I’d go for >> cargo_bike if none

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-20 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Florimond Berthoux wrote: > I’m really here just to know the english word. > In France we also say "vélo cargo" (cargo bike), so I’d go for > cargo_bike if none disapprove. It's definitely a cargo bike in British English too. Richard (owner of a Circe Morpheus, which is a cargo bike of sorts:

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-20 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Well, I don’t know what the french law say, but that’s not an issue, we don’t tag the law ;) I’m really here just to know the english word. In France we also say "vélo cargo" (cargo bike), so I’d go for cargo_bike if none disapprove. Le ven. 20 déc. 2019 à 10:42, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : >

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
> in other words the Italian law doesn’t distinguish between cargo bikes and > other bikes. > Looks like it. But: most cargo bikes are not "bicycles" or "pedelecs" because they have more powerful motors - they fall into the S-pedelec class of vehicles, with number plates, insurance ecc. I

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-20 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 20. Dec 2019, at 09:42, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > Just for information the size limits for bicycles in Italy (from Polizia di > Stato): in other words the Italian law doesn’t distinguish between cargo bikes and other bikes. What about France? Cheers Martin

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-20 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 at 22:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > what’s the legal definition for this kind of bicycle in France? Are there > minimum/maximum dimensions? Number of wheels? > Just for information the size limits for bicycles in Italy (from Polizia di Stato

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 19. Dec 2019, at 21:23, Florimond Berthoux > wrote: > > It's to tag the access to this new kind of bicycle parking designed > for cargo bikes in Paris > https://framapic.org/w4zmjIvtoxim/1qsfbMKa1iVI.jpg > I'd like to have the word for all the kinds of those bicycle

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-19 Thread Volker Schmidt
We have a somewhat related problem her in Italy. Cycleways and in particular foot-cycleways are full of chicane-type of bicycle barriers, where a normal bicycle passes, maybe with the cyclist putting the feet on the ground, but tandems, cargo-bikes or bikes with baggage trailers (very popular with

Re: [Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-19 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
In the USA we call them “cargo bikes”. This would translate bakfiets in the Netherlanders Which have a bucket up front, as well as “long-tail” cargo bikes which carry the kids or stuff behind the rider, and cargo trikes too. https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/a25054215/best-cargo-bikes/

[Tagging] What access key for cargo bike ?

2019-12-19 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Hello, What's the english word for this kind of bicycle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freight_bicycle ? It's to tag the access to this new kind of bicycle parking designed for cargo bikes in Paris https://framapic.org/w4zmjIvtoxim/1qsfbMKa1iVI.jpg I'd like to have the word for all the kinds of