Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the, main Map features page?

2020-01-20 Thread Rob Savoye
On 1/20/20 5:00 AM, tagging-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: > Sounds basically reasonable to me. The page does not make it clear > if this is just a place you can put a hose in, or if the piping is > pre-installed. What I'm talking about is a red 3 or 4" pipe that > runs from under the middle

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-19 Thread Greg Troxel
Joseph Eisenberg writes: > That tag is probably emergency=suction_point - seems much better to > tag that rather than identifying the whole pond. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%3Dsuction_point Sounds basically reasonable to me. The page does not make it clear if this is

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-19 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 19.01.2020 06:10, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: 2) =fire_water_pond " A man made or natural pond with water for a fire department." 2785 uses Why is that not verifiable? Such ponds typically have a red-framed sign "Löschwasserteich". Ground-verifiable, not necessarily Bing-verifiable. I see how

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 14:36, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > The tag emergency=ses_station is only used in one country, so it would > be better to pick a name that will make sense internationally. > Yes, I agree entirely! That was the suggestion made previously that I mentioned & why I then

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 14:21, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > The difference between emergency=lifeguard_tower and > emergency=lifeguard_platform is not very clear. > No, I tried to clarify that when I brought up about tidying up the various Lifeguard listings a while back, but never got very far :-(

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> In general it might make sense to have the complete list on the key page of > emergency, and a > selection on map features. I've made this change. In generally, now that we have taglists for most parts of Map Features, it would be good to have a longer list at each Key: page (e.g Key:emergency,

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Thank you for the help, Greg. >> 2) =fire_water_pond " A man made or natural pond with water for a fire >> department." 2785 uses >> - Remove: This tag isn't verifiable, or else it could be added to any >> pond or small lake. It's not much used outside of Germany. > > Around me, there are things

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
The tag emergency=ses_station is only used in one country, so it would be better to pick a name that will make sense internationally. > So the land_rescue here means a rescue service where the main mode of > transport of the responders involved is a motor vehicle, bicycle or on foot. Don't

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
The difference between emergency=lifeguard_tower and emergency=lifeguard_platform is not very clear. Recall that the original question is about what tags should be included in Map Features, the introductory page, translated into may languages, which represents the most commonly used, "de facto"

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 10:40, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > There would seem to be possible grounds for a new tag of > emergency=rescue_station, broken down into what type of rescue that station > carries out: > eg type (that word that everybody loves!) / field / area / rescue=water > (swimmers) /

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sun, 19 Jan 2020 at 00:20, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Should we remove some of the rare values of "emergency=" which have > got into Map Features? > No just because it's may have a low tag count doesn't mean it's not a good tag. > Like some other key pages, the Key:emergency page is a big

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
As others have said, emergency=landing_sites are different to helipads, as per the ongoing discussion re airstrip / airfield / aerodrome. In Australia, we have just finished mapping ~700 of then throughout New South Wales in connection with the current bushfires (which I'm sure you've all heard

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 22:18:10 +0900 Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Should we remove some of the rare values of "emergency=" which have > got into Map Features? > ) =fire_hose "A high-pressure hose used to carry water or other fire > retardant (such as foam) to a fire to extinguish it." - 1115 uses >

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Joseph Eisenberg writes: > 2) =fire_water_pond " A man made or natural pond with water for a fire > department." 2785 uses > - Remove: This tag isn't verifiable, or else it could be added to any > pond or small lake. It's not much used outside of Germany. Around me, there are things that meet

Re: [Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 18.01.2020 14:18, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Should we remove some of the rare values of "emergency=" which have got into Map Features? In general it might make sense to have the complete list on the key page of emergency, and a selection on map features. Like some other key pages, the

[Tagging] What values of 'emergency=' should be on the main Map features page?

2020-01-18 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Should we remove some of the rare values of "emergency=" which have got into Map Features? Like some other key pages, the Key:emergency page is a big list of features generated from a template, and the same template goes straight to the main list of Map Features. This is probably why the Map