Hi, I am really quite new to OSM and I am looking forward to a wiki page that clarifies everything about roundabouts, large, small, and quasi-roundabout-ish. I would like to learn how they are NOT traffic islands and how to tag traffic islands with curbs, as a related course of action. I am eager to learn, and sometimes wish I could follow these discussions on the wiki so that I could see where folks are putting this kind of information in the wiki. Thank you all for your discussion as it is informative and I learn a lot about how to participate in productive and useful tagging. Yay OSM!
In my city, 90% of the streets weren't on the map 6 weeks ago when I started with OSM, so I am just now out in the streets of the community, after 6 weeks of tracing, taking pictures of "standard" islands and curbs and driveways and streets and street names and more, eager to see how they match up with what you are seeing and tagging in other places, and I am still learning how and where to make decisions about "general features" and stuff that is country specific. I am sure a collection of wiki pages exist for this now, for roundabouts. Is it possible that we can start to include the links into the email discussions? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Junctions http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout_(disambiguation) Would it help, for example, if mini-roundabout appeared on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout_(disambiguation) ? Is it possible that a more technical system for transcluding information about features like specific roundabouts, within the wiki (using mediawiki transclusion), would help to create (summary, comparison, implementation specific) pages like this? so, for example, handling of UK roundabouts from the UK wiki page could be transcluded into a page where we show the slight deviation for handling of similar features in Indonesia? When I see this collection of pages I sense that some of my own confusion comes from trying to understand how to interpret the authority structure and the ordering/categorization of the pages. Still learning, here! A set of presets for JOSM was created for Indonesia. I must admit that they are in Indonesia language and that I have some difficulty using them, but, they are useful because they ... I am too new to know the technical term...they provide a sort of default tag collection? I think it was made for buildings, specifically, but, then, isn't this a way that such a thing could be deployed for roundabouts, too? Is there a way that wiki "policy", after having endured discussion and approval, can then be.. oh wouldn't it be nice, that this could be auto-magically deployed as updated feature presets for JOSM for country specific tagging? Ah, here it is: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Presets/building.xml Please hear these ideas/efforts on my part as a quest to understand your discussion and a strong desire to participate, and of course coming from someone who thinks they might have seen a mini-roundabout, but, is not so sure how it is tagged compared to other things, and is learning about his own city through YOUR discussion of tags. I am no civil engineer, and sometimes I really don't even know what I am looking at, and I really am learning how to describe my own city FROM the wiki! Wild, hey? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Transclusion Open and curious, Alex in Bogor, Indonesia http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Alex%20Rollin _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
