Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
2015-07-28 23:59 GMT+02:00 Hubert sg.fo...@gmx.de: On 28. Juli 2015 22:32 Ruben Maes [mailto:ruben.mae...@gmail.com] wrote: 2015-07-25 15:24 GMT+02:00 Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com: It's also perhaps worth mentioning that the 18th Feb change (which you - and I - preferred the previous version

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-28 Thread Hubert
FYI: I just took the liberty of changing the highway=footway definition back to the pre Feb 18th Version. -Original Message- From: Andy Townsend [mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com] Sent: Samstag, 25. Juli 2015 15:25 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-28 Thread Andy Townsend
On 28/07/2015 17:35, Hubert wrote: FYI: I just took the liberty of changing the highway=footway definition back to the pre Feb 18th Version. \o/ Thanks for that. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-28 Thread Ruben Maes
2015-07-25 15:24 GMT+02:00 Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com: On 25/07/2015 13:43, Hubert wrote: It's also perhaps worth mentioning that the 18th Feb change (which you - and I - preferred the previous version to) was made by a wiki editor who's since been blocked (3). (3)

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-28 Thread Hubert
For clarification: I didn't write that. On 28. Juli 2015 22:32 Ruben Maes [mailto:ruben.mae...@gmail.com] wrote: 2015-07-25 15:24 GMT+02:00 Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com: On 25/07/2015 13:43, Hubert wrote: It's also perhaps worth mentioning that the 18th Feb change (which you - and I -

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-25 Thread Hubert
Am 24. Juli 2015 um 17:50 schrieb Heiko Eckenreiter [mailto:heiko.eckenrei...@gmx.net] : Am 24.07.2015 um 17:24 schrieb Hubert: But only the way with the traffic sign will be tagged with bicycle=designated, foot=designated using the definition in the description box That is not logical,

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-25 Thread Hubert
On 25. Juli 2015 01:36 Troxel [mailto:g...@ir.bbn.com] wrote: Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com writes: Hmmm. There is a problem. We (cyclists) would like to be able to distinguish between ways that can be used legally by bicycle, and 1) that do not have any traffic sign saying this and 2)

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-25 Thread Andy Townsend
On 25/07/2015 13:43, Hubert wrote: Am 24. Juli 2015 um 17:50 schrieb Heiko Eckenreiter [mailto:heiko.eckenrei...@gmx.net] : Am 24.07.2015 um 17:24 schrieb Hubert: But only the way with the traffic sign will be tagged with bicycle=designated, foot=designated using the definition in the

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Warin
On 24/07/2015 9:30 PM, Hubert wrote: access=designated wiki Hallo, during adiscussion within the german forum [1],I have been pointed to the description box of the“access=designated”wikipage [2]. It reads“A way marked for a particular use.”. I would like to change it to“A waydesignatedfor

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Volker Schmidt
Hmmm. There is a problem. We (cyclists) would like to be able to distinguish between ways that can be used legally by bicycle, and 1) that do not have any traffic sign saying this and 2) those where there is some kind of traffic sign saying explicitly that this way can be used by cyclists I

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread jonathan
I agree with Volker. To me designated meant “what it is says on the roadside signage”. Usually seen where there are unique or special circumstances restricting access. Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me From: Warin Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎24‎ ‎July‎ ‎2015 ‎13‎:‎50 To: Tag discussion,

[Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Hubert
Hallo, during a discussion within the german forum [1], I have been pointed to the description box of the access=designated wikipage [2]. It reads A way marked for a particular use.. I would like to change it to A way designated for a particular use or A way intended for a particular use..

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Hubert
/File:Z241GetrennterRadUndGehweg.png [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:GetrennterRadUndGehweg.jpeg From: Warin [mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com] Sent: Freitag, 24. Juli 2015 16:20 To: tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki On 24/07/2015 11:42 PM, Hubert wrote: Well

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 4:00 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: access=designated is defined as A preferred or designated route for a specific vehicle type or types, which vehicle type ? For me that only makes sense if you also specify the type, so I prefer designated=xxx ( that's with

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Heiko Eckenreiter
Am 24.07.2015 um 17:24 schrieb Hubert: But only the way with the traffic sign will be tagged with bicycle=designated, foot=designated using the definition in the description box That is not logical, because both ways are still equally designated to pedestrians and cyclist in both situations.

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Warin
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:GetrennterRadUndGehweg.jpeg *From:*jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me [mailto:jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me] *Sent:* Freitag, 24. Juli 2015 15:05 *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki I agree with Volker. To me

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Greg Troxel
Heiko Eckenreiter heiko.eckenrei...@gmx.net writes: Today in OSM it's documented, only the ways signposted with a traffic sign should be tagged with *=designated (as described on the cited page access=designated and much more). Now you'd like to apply the tag *=designated also to ways which

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Greg Troxel
Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com writes: Hmmm. There is a problem. We (cyclists) would like to be able to distinguish between ways that can be used legally by bicycle, and 1) that do not have any traffic sign saying this and 2) those where there is some kind of traffic sign saying

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread John Eldredge
That makes sense to me. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Martin Luther King, Jr. On July 24, 2015 8:11:12 AM Marc Gemis marc.ge...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder what

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Warin
On 24/07/2015 11:35 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Access is also used (misused?) for things other than highways ... A hotel may be for 'designated' persons only .. eg employees, students only

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Marc Gemis
I wonder what highway=primary; access=designated means. I think JOSM even complains about this. Don't you need a type of road that already restricts the access to 1 type of vehicles for that, such as highway=bicycle ? (although in many countries that one implies foot=yes, so it isn't well

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: Access is also used (misused?) for things other than highways ... A hotel may be for 'designated' persons only .. eg employees, students only for an apartment building. An entry may be 'private' for residence only. I don't

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Warin
Access is also used (misused?) for things other than highways ... A hotel may be for 'designated' persons only .. eg employees, students only for an apartment building. An entry may be 'private' for residence only. Those kind of restrictions have been tagged with the access tag. On

Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki

2015-07-24 Thread Hubert
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:GetrennterRadUndGehweg.jpeg From: jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me [mailto:jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me] Sent: Freitag, 24. Juli 2015 15:05 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] access=designated wiki I agree with Volker. To me designated meant “what