Re: [Tagging] bicycle:lanes=designated|... vs cycleway:lanes=lane|...

2015-01-14 Thread fly
Am 13.01.2015 um 13:38 schrieb Martin Vonwald:
 When writing the :lanes-proposal I used those tags in an example. But in
 my opinion bicycle:lanes=...|designated|... fits better.

I was irritated by your example, as well. Maybe, you can rework some
examples and add them to the wiki. At least, marking the original ones
as outdated would be really appreciated.


Thanks fly

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[Tagging] bicycle:lanes=designated|... vs cycleway:lanes=lane|...

2015-01-13 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hi,

Some places in the wiki mention cycleway:lanes:* tags, and those are
indeed used in a few places (31 uses currently). It seems to me these
tags are obsolete and have been replaced by bicycle:lanes:*, is that
correct? Should I probably mass-replace them?

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Re: [Tagging] bicycle:lanes=designated|... vs cycleway:lanes=lane|...

2015-01-13 Thread Hubert
+1 to all. Except none in this case was meant to be the default value from 
the :lanes proposal.

Am 13. Januar 2015 13:45:24 MEZ, schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com:
2015-01-13 13:38 GMT+01:00 Hubert sg.fo...@gmx.de:

 I would not. IMO bicycle:lanes is an access Tag while cycleway:lanes
 defines es the type. So one could have cycleway:lanes:forward=none |
lane
 and bicycle:lanes:forwad= yes | designated , for example.


That's correct. AFAIK it is common understanding, that some kind of way
with access tags bicycle=designated and vehicle=no (or similar) is more
or
less identical to a cyclelane.

My problems with cycleway:lanes=...|lane|none|... are:
* The value none is not specified for the key cycleway
* The tag cycleway=lane tells use, there is a cyclelane, but it doesn't
tell us where.

Best regards,
Martin




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Re: [Tagging] bicycle:lanes=designated|... vs cycleway:lanes=lane|...

2015-01-13 Thread Martin Vonwald
2015-01-13 13:38 GMT+01:00 Hubert sg.fo...@gmx.de:

 I would not. IMO bicycle:lanes is an access Tag while cycleway:lanes
 defines es the type. So one could have cycleway:lanes:forward=none | lane
 and bicycle:lanes:forwad= yes | designated , for example.


That's correct. AFAIK it is common understanding, that some kind of way
with access tags bicycle=designated and vehicle=no (or similar) is more or
less identical to a cyclelane.

My problems with cycleway:lanes=...|lane|none|... are:
* The value none is not specified for the key cycleway
* The tag cycleway=lane tells use, there is a cyclelane, but it doesn't
tell us where.

Best regards,
Martin
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Re: [Tagging] bicycle:lanes=designated|... vs cycleway:lanes=lane|...

2015-01-13 Thread Hubert
I would not. IMO bicycle:lanes is an access Tag while cycleway:lanes defines es 
the type. So one could have cycleway:lanes:forward=none | lane and 
bicycle:lanes:forwad= yes | designated , for example.

Am 13. Januar 2015 13:28:22 MEZ, schrieb Andrew Shadura and...@shadura.me:
Hi,

Some places in the wiki mention cycleway:lanes:* tags, and those are
indeed used in a few places (31 uses currently). It seems to me these
tags are obsolete and have been replaced by bicycle:lanes:*, is that
correct? Should I probably mass-replace them?

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Cheers,
  Andrew

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Re: [Tagging] bicycle:lanes=designated|... vs cycleway:lanes=lane|...

2015-01-13 Thread Martin Vonwald
2015-01-13 13:52 GMT+01:00 Hubert sg.fo...@gmx.de:

 +1 to all. Except none in this case was meant to be the default value
 from the :lanes proposal.


The default value is always an empty value, e.g. minspeed=|80|50. The
value none might be defined by the main key, e.g. maxspeed=none. If the
main key does not specify the value none, one should not use this value
in any suffixed key.
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