Re: [Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

2022-10-12 Thread Marc_marc

Le 12.10.22 à 11:51, Illia Marchenko a écrit :

fixme=Review


I dislike the idea to add fixme for stuff that doesnn't
require to be fixed but are old (and old items should be
rechecked from time to time)!

if someone want to express the survey date, let's use survey:date
if someone want to express imagery_used:date or source:date, do it also 
(if possible onn changeset tag)

if someone want to warn that a changeset is a "tag fix only",
some mapper use the changeset tag type=fix (i dislike the type=*
for that usage, but previous thread about it doesn't find
a better_/consensual tag for it)

if a tool want to warn user for objets not seen recently
or whose source is old, fine.

but let's everyone able to see the real fixme (sb detected
an error but couldn't fix it) separately from the "resurvey
or found a more recent source to check if it's still current".



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Re: [Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

2022-10-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I think that retagging confirmed to be existing refugee sites and
deleting clearly invalid data would be better than turning it into more 
camouflaged
suspect data.

Oct 12, 2022, 11:59 by annekadis...@web.de:

>
> I left 3 fixmes, even tried one in French, just in case.
>
>
> Anne
>
> On 12/10/2022 10:51, Illia Marchenko  wrote:
>
>> I think that amenity=refugee_site & fixme=Review may be  solution, 
>> it isn't the ideal, but are better then leave "as  is". 
>>  
>>  
>> ср, 12 окт. 2022 г., 11:54  Warin <>> 61sundow...@gmail.com>> >:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/10/22 02:05, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
>>>
 >  Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps  
 > i n an  automated edit? … 
 > I'm not even sure  if  they all still exist 12 
 > years later.

 It  would not be possible, because we do not know if   
they still exist. 

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So you leave them with an incorrect tag? 
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd re-tag them.. but only after looking at imagery  to see 
>>> if they are refugee sites. 
>>>
>>>
>>> And I'd try to find the most upto date imagery to  confirm 
>>> there existence .. 
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>

 However  a local mapper or someone who has visited the 
 area  could re-tag them, after confirming that they
   still exist and are in fact refugee sites

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A local mapper or visitor can also confirm or delete  them 
>>> after they have been retagged by a remote mapper. 
>>>
>>>
>>> And after 212 years of inactivity the change may  prompt a 
>>> local to think about these sites. 
>>>
>>>

 -Joseph  Eisenberg 

 On Tue, Oct 11,2022 at 4:20 AM Anne-Karoline 
 Distel < annekadis...@web.de >wrote:

> Hello,
>  
>  I noticed that many of the refugee camps inHaiti 
> are tagged as
>  tourism=camp_site which made me uneasy. Turnsout 
> there is the tag
>  amenity=refugee_site. Would it be possible to
> re-tag those refugee camps
>  in an automated edit? There are about 60 or 70
> mapped. I'm not even sure
>  if they all still exist 12 years later.
>  
>  Anne
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Re: [Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

2022-10-12 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel

I left 3 fixmes, even tried one in French, just in case.

Anne

On 12/10/2022 10:51, Illia Marchenko wrote:

I think that amenity=refugee_site & fixme=Review may be solution, it
isn't the ideal, but are better then leave "as is".

ср, 12 окт. 2022 г., 11:54 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:


On 12/10/22 02:05, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:

> Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps in an
automated edit? … I'm not even sure if they all still exist 12
years later.

It would not be possible, because we do not know if they still
exist.



So you leave them with an incorrect tag?

I'd re-tag them.. but only after looking at imagery to see if they
are refugee sites.

And I'd try to find the most upto date imagery to confirm there
existence ..




However a local mapper or someone who has visited the area could
re-tag them, after confirming that they still exist and are in
fact refugee sites



A local mapper or visitor can also confirm or delete them after
they have been retagged by a remote mapper.

And after 212 years of inactivity the change may prompt a local to
think about these sites.



-Joseph Eisenberg

On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 4:20 AM Anne-Karoline Distel
 wrote:

Hello,

I noticed that many of the refugee camps in Haiti are tagged as
tourism=camp_site which made me uneasy. Turns out there is
the tag
amenity=refugee_site. Would it be possible to re-tag those
refugee camps
in an automated edit? There are about 60 or 70 mapped. I'm
not even sure
if they all still exist 12 years later.

Anne


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Re: [Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

2022-10-12 Thread Illia Marchenko
I think that amenity=refugee_site & fixme=Review may be solution, it isn't
the ideal, but are better then leave "as is".

ср, 12 окт. 2022 г., 11:54 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>:

>
> On 12/10/22 02:05, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
>
> > Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps in an automated
> edit? … I'm not even sure if they all still exist 12 years later.
>
> It would not be possible, because we do not know if they still exist.
>
>
> So you leave them with an incorrect tag?
>
> I'd re-tag them.. but only after looking at imagery to see if they are
> refugee sites.
>
> And I'd try to find the most upto date imagery to confirm there existence
> ..
>
>
>
>
> However a local mapper or someone who has visited the area could re-tag
> them, after confirming that they still exist and are in fact refugee sites
>
>
> A local mapper or visitor can also confirm or delete them after they have
> been retagged by a remote mapper.
>
> And after 212 years of inactivity the change may prompt a local to think
> about these sites.
>
>
> -Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 4:20 AM Anne-Karoline Distel 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I noticed that many of the refugee camps in Haiti are tagged as
>> tourism=camp_site which made me uneasy. Turns out there is the tag
>> amenity=refugee_site. Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps
>> in an automated edit? There are about 60 or 70 mapped. I'm not even sure
>> if they all still exist 12 years later.
>>
>> Anne
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Re: [Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

2022-10-12 Thread Warin


On 12/10/22 02:05, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps in an automated 
edit? … I'm not even sure if they all still exist 12 years later.


It would not be possible, because we do not know if they still exist.



So you leave them with an incorrect tag?

I'd re-tag them.. but only after looking at imagery to see if they are 
refugee sites.


And I'd try to find the most upto date imagery to confirm there 
existence ..





However a local mapper or someone who has visited the area could 
re-tag them, after confirming that they still exist and are in fact 
refugee sites



A local mapper or visitor can also confirm or delete them after they 
have been retagged by a remote mapper.


And after 212 years of inactivity the change may prompt a local to think 
about these sites.




-Joseph Eisenberg

On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 4:20 AM Anne-Karoline Distel 
 wrote:


Hello,

I noticed that many of the refugee camps in Haiti are tagged as
tourism=camp_site which made me uneasy. Turns out there is the tag
amenity=refugee_site. Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee
camps
in an automated edit? There are about 60 or 70 mapped. I'm not
even sure
if they all still exist 12 years later.

Anne


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Re: [Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

2022-10-11 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
> Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps in an automated edit?
… I'm not even sure if they all still exist 12 years later.

It would not be possible, because we do not know if they still exist.

However a local mapper or someone who has visited the area could re-tag
them, after confirming that they still exist and are in fact refugee sites

-Joseph Eisenberg

On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 4:20 AM Anne-Karoline Distel 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I noticed that many of the refugee camps in Haiti are tagged as
> tourism=camp_site which made me uneasy. Turns out there is the tag
> amenity=refugee_site. Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps
> in an automated edit? There are about 60 or 70 mapped. I'm not even sure
> if they all still exist 12 years later.
>
> Anne
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[Tagging] camp sites in Haiti

2022-10-11 Thread Anne-Karoline Distel

Hello,

I noticed that many of the refugee camps in Haiti are tagged as
tourism=camp_site which made me uneasy. Turns out there is the tag
amenity=refugee_site. Would it be possible to re-tag those refugee camps
in an automated edit? There are about 60 or 70 mapped. I'm not even sure
if they all still exist 12 years later.

Anne


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