Re: [Tagging] cuisine=milk_shake ? | Re: Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread Paul Allen
On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 23:41, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
wrote:

&, to me at least, doesn't make much sense?
>
> You've gone into a beverage shop, ordered a milk-shake, & they've served
> it to you?
>
> What else were they going to do - take your order & money then say sorry,
> no, we're not giving you the drink? :-)
>

They could sell it to you for you to take away and drink elsewhere.  That's
one of the other
options.  If it were a fast-food place you'd understand the difference
between being served
a meal or being sold a takeaway.  Same principle.  Not particularly
intuitive, but the wiki
does explain it.

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Re: [Tagging] cuisine=milk_shake ? | Re: Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 03:43, ael  wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 04:48:42PM +0100, Paul Allen wrote:
>
> > What you should have is shop=beverages + drink:milk_shake=served.
>
> I missed that. It's not very intuitive :-)
>

&, to me at least, doesn't make much sense?

You've gone into a beverage shop, ordered a milk-shake, & they've served it
to you?

What else were they going to do - take your order & money then say sorry,
no, we're not giving you the drink? :-)

Thanks

Graeme
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Re: [Tagging] cuisine=milk_shake ? | Re: Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread ael
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 04:48:42PM +0100, Paul Allen wrote:
> On
> Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 15:52, ael  wrote:
> 
> > Sounds a good idea. I have just switched it to
> > shop=beverages  and beverage=milk_shake, but adding
> >
> 
> beverage=* is logical but not documented.  drink=* may be illogical but
> it's not
> only documented, that's what the shop=beverages says you should use to
> specify
> which drinks a beverages shop sells.

Yes, I noticed that later.

> 
> Actually, when I first mentioned drink=* I trusted the shop=beverages
> documentation
> too much and/or misread it.  What you should have is shop=beverages +
> drink:milk_shake=served.

I missed that. It's not very intuitive :-)

I had already added cuisine=milk_shake as suggested here which seems
much clearer.

I will probably change the beverage= tag as you suggest, but not with
much enthusiasm. I guess it all depends on what the data consumers do
with all of this.

ael


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Re: [Tagging] cuisine=milk_shake ? | Re: Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread Paul Allen
On
Thu, 5 Sep 2019 at 15:52, ael  wrote:

> Sounds a good idea. I have just switched it to
> shop=beverages  and beverage=milk_shake, but adding
>

beverage=* is logical but not documented.  drink=* may be illogical but
it's not
only documented, that's what the shop=beverages says you should use to
specify
which drinks a beverages shop sells.

Actually, when I first mentioned drink=* I trusted the shop=beverages
documentation
too much and/or misread it.  What you should have is shop=beverages +
drink:milk_shake=served.

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Re: [Tagging] cuisine=milk_shake ? | Re: Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread ael
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 04:38:44PM +0200, Rory McCann wrote:
> Why not `cuisine=milk_shakes` (or should it be singular?) ? If you can sit
> inside it and drink your milk shake, I'd almost say it's an `amenity=cafe`

Sounds a good idea. I have just switched it to
shop=beverages  and beverage=milk_shake, but adding
cuisine=milk_shake  (I suspect singular is better) can't do anything but
good.

I will settle on that until someone comes up with anything better.

Thanks,
ael


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[Tagging] cuisine=milk_shake ? | Re: Tag for a milk_shake shop?

2019-09-05 Thread Rory McCann
Why not `cuisine=milk_shakes` (or should it be singular?) ? If you can 
sit inside it and drink your milk shake, I'd almost say it's an 
`amenity=cafe`


On 05/09/2019 16:04, ael wrote:

How do I tag a shop that sells milk shakes?

This one: https://shakeshop.co.uk/menu/

I have used
amenity=milk_shakes
and
shop=dairy
for now.

But shop=dairy seems misleading. Just shop=milk_shake, perhaps?

Or perhaps
shop=dairy  and
dairy=milk_shake ?

That last seems the best choice?


This is a reason why I am concerned that shop=yes is not being rendered
in some cases. shop=yes seems a reasonable tag when there are no obvious
tags.

ael


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