Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
14 lip 2019, 15:26 od dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 14. Jul 2019, at 10:15, Peter Elderson wrote: >> >> From the air you commonly see rows of houses with strips of green in front >> and back, so it would make sense to tag the gardens different than the >>

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Peter Elderson
That's what I meant. Vr gr Peter Elderson Op zo 14 jul. 2019 om 15:29 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 14. Jul 2019, at 10:15, Peter Elderson wrote: > > > > From the air you commonly see rows of houses with strips of green in > front and

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 14. Jul 2019, at 10:15, Peter Elderson wrote: > > From the air you commonly see rows of houses with strips of green in front > and back, so it would make sense to tag the gardens different than the > residential area. While I am all in favor of being detailed with

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Warin
On 14/07/19 16:48, Pee Wee wrote: Op vr 12 jul. 2019 om 09:13 schreef Marc Gemis >: On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 8:50 AM Pee Wee mailto:piewi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Why would a private garden require a different key? Do we tag a private wood / forest in a

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Peter Elderson
Residential gardens in Nederland, as along as people refer to those as "My front garden" even when completely paved to support one tree-in-a-pot, are leisure things. From the air you commonly see rows of houses with strips of green in front and back, so it would make sense to tag the gardens

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Pee Wee
> > > 1. Has this issue been discussed before and if so … what was the > outcome? > > 2. If not… do you agree with me that private front/back garden > should not be tagged with leisure=garden but with a non-leisure tag? (if > so… any suggestions? And what about private "gardens" that

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Pee Wee
> Why would a private garden require a different key? Do we tag a > private wood / forest in a different way than one that is accessible > by the public? Do private parking lots get a different amenity-key ? > No, we refine this with additional tags. > This method can be applied to private gardens

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-14 Thread Pee Wee
Op vr 12 jul. 2019 om 09:13 schreef Marc Gemis : > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 8:50 AM Pee Wee wrote: > > Why would a private garden require a different key? Do we tag a > private wood / forest in a different way than one that is accessible > by the public? Do private parking lots get a different

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Warin
On 14/07/19 04:44, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:17:18AM +1000, Warin wrote: Some private gardens that front the street are publicly visible, I see no reason not to map them. The 'usability' in this instance is visible and, sometimes,scents. The same reason i do not map my

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Alessandro Sarretta
On 13/07/19 20:44, Florian Lohoff wrote: The same reason i do not map my kitchen sink as a natural=water/water=pond Its not for the public leisure. I don't know if the issue here is public leisure (in this case it's maybe better to change the key "leisure" with something else), but I see

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Jul 2019, at 19:55, Philip Barnes wrote: > > You can of course just walk across when there is a gap in the traffic, > walking would be very restricted if you only crossed roads at crossings. while I agree in principle, the legal situation in many countries is

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Jul 13, 2019 at 10:17:18AM +1000, Warin wrote: > Some private gardens that front the street are publicly visible, I see > no reason not to map them. > > The 'usability' in this instance is visible and, sometimes,scents. The same reason i do not map my kitchen sink as a

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Volker Schmidt
I would not recommend to try to cross a roundabout in Italy like that for your own safety. I don't know if it is forbidden explicitly. On Sat, 13 Jul 2019 at 19:56, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 16:56 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > > On 13. Jul

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Philip Barnes
On Sat, 2019-07-13 at 16:56 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > On 13. Jul 2019, at 16:36, Tom Pfeifer > wrote: > > > Why 'private' if it is a public roundabout? > > If it not allowed to trample the flowers down, wouldn't access=no > > be more appropriate? > > it is often

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Jul 2019, at 16:36, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > Why 'private' if it is a public roundabout? > If it not allowed to trample the flowers down, wouldn't access=no be more > appropriate? it is often not accessible, because no crossings lead there and you are not allowed

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 13.07.2019 09:35, Volker Schmidt wrote: I have tagged many planted centre pieces of roundabouts as leisure=garden, access=private in lack of better alternatives. Why 'private' if it is a public roundabout? If it not allowed to trample the flowers down, wouldn't access=no be more

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-13 Thread Volker Schmidt
I have tagged many planted centre pieces of roundabouts as leisure=garden, access=private in lack of better alternatives. On Sat, 13 Jul 2019, 02:18 Warin, <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/07/19 21:00, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 07:23:01AM +0200, Pee Wee wrote: > >>

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Warin
On 12/07/19 21:00, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 07:23:01AM +0200, Pee Wee wrote: Hi all I would like your opinion on the next issue. meaning on may 3, 2010 when someone added a description of “Garden” from the Wikipedia garden description that refers to private gardens. In

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 10:51, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/07/19 19:02, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > Public toilet: amenity=toilets > Private toilet: not tagged (so not tagged > like a public one) > > I am unable to link to well tagged private > toilets as in this case private

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 07:23:01AM +0200, Pee Wee wrote: > Hi all > I would like your opinion on the next issue. > meaning on may 3, 2010 when someone added a description of “Garden” from > the Wikipedia garden description that refers to private gardens. In order > to differentiate from the

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
12 Jul 2019, 11:50 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > On 12/07/19 19:02, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > >> >> >> >> 12 Jul 2019, 10:11 by >> 61sundow...@gmail.com >> >> : >> >>> On 12/07/19 17:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >>> sent from a phone

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Warin
On 12/07/19 19:02, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 12 Jul 2019, 10:11 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 12/07/19 17:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 12. Jul 2019, at 09:12, Marc Gemis wrote: Why would a private garden require a

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
12 Jul 2019, 10:11 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: > On 12/07/19 17:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >> >> sent from a phone >> >>> On 12. Jul 2019, at 09:12, Marc Gemis wrote: >>> >>> Why would a private garden require a different key? Do we tag a >>> private wood / forest in a different way than

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 08:13, Marc Gemis wrote: > > Why would a private garden require a different key? Indeed. A private garden is often used for leisure and is a garden. One might perhaps argue for different tagging to describe a private garden used for growing vegetables and which the

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Warin
On 12/07/19 17:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 12. Jul 2019, at 09:12, Marc Gemis wrote: Why would a private garden require a different key? Do we tag a private wood / forest in a different way than one that is accessible by the public? Do private parking lots get a

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jul 2019, at 09:12, Marc Gemis wrote: > > Why would a private garden require a different key? Do we tag a > private wood / forest in a different way than one that is accessible > by the public? Do private parking lots get a different amenity-key ? > No, we refine

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Peter Elderson
I'm fine with leisure=garden for private/common/public gardens Vr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 12 jul. 2019 om 07:24 schreef Pee Wee : > Hi all > > > I would like your opinion on the next issue. > > > On the Dutch forum (googletranslate >

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Marc Gemis
On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 8:50 AM Pee Wee wrote: > > I understand but numbers don't always say much. A great part of this number > is caused by an (afaik undocumentend and highly arbitrary) import in the > city of Tilburg > and how many private, residential gardens are mapped (around the

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Pee Wee
I understand but numbers don't always say much. A great part of this number is caused by an (afaik undocumentend and highly arbitrary) import in the city of Tilburg Cheers Peter Op vr 12 jul. 2019 om 08:18 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>:

Re: [Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jul 2019, at 07:23, Pee Wee wrote: > > It seems to me that OSM leisure=garden wiki changed meaning on may 3, 2010 > when someone added a description of “Garden” from the Wikipedia garden > description that refers to private gardens Frankly, I believe it is too

[Tagging] leisure=garden for private front/back gardens

2019-07-11 Thread Pee Wee
Hi all I would like your opinion on the next issue. On the Dutch forum (googletranslate ) I started a thread about the tag leisure=garden for private front/back gardens. Reason