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> On 30 Mar 2017, at 22:22, Juan Pablo Tolosa Sanzana
> wrote:
>
> Vice versa, the practice is mapping the baseline along the coastline.
in Italy there's a law with actual coordinates for the baseline, but AFAIK we
are generally using EU data in Europe for the maritime bor
I didn't know about the practice of mapping the coastline along the baseline,
AFAIK we don't map the baseline, only their 12nm offset (maritime borders)
Vice versa, the practice is mapping the baseline along the coastline.
But I think this is no a good idea, because baseline extend up a bit
On 30 March 2017 at 07:41, Juan Pablo Tolosa Sanzana
wrote:
> An exact limit between the open ocean and a sheltered coast is too arbitrary
> as natural feature. It seems a political issue. You can use
> boundary=maritime + border_type=baseline for excluding internal waters from
> the open ocean, a
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> On 30 Mar 2017, at 01:06, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>
> because UNCLOS allows countries to specify a baseline separate from the
> coastline that encloses parts of the sea/ocean (thereby making those parts
> internal waters of the country) .
I thought the baseline was g
By default baselines match with mean low water spring, meanwhile
natural=coastline is tagged at mean high water spring.
It would be good define some rules related to maritime boundaries don't
agree with UNCLOS, .e.g. peruvian boundary extends up 200 miles away the
coastline.
I don't know the Australian baseline, this is only an example. Sometimes
the countries define a straight baseline that close a bay. Of course,
Andrew have the freedoom to use, e.g. the tag description=* to do the
mentioned difference.
> No, it is not a political issue, the position of the base
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 4:41 AM, Juan Pablo Tolosa Sanzana <
jptolosanz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> An exact limit between the open ocean and a sheltered coast is too
> arbitrary as natural feature. It seems a political issue. You can use
> boundary=maritime + border_type=baseline for excluding interna
On Wednesday 29 March 2017, Juan Pablo Tolosa Sanzana wrote:
> An exact limit between the open ocean and a sheltered coast is too
> arbitrary as natural feature. It seems a political issue. [...]
No, it is not a political issue, the position of the baseline is not in
doubt here. If Andrew wants
An exact limit between the open ocean and a sheltered coast is too
arbitrary as natural feature. It seems a political issue. You can use
boundary=maritime + border_type=baseline for excluding internal waters
from the open ocean, according of laws of the country. Check the article
https://en.wik
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> On 29 Mar 2017, at 14:00, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
> I'd also like to consider how to tag rias, so we can differentiate
> between a ria and the open ocean.
the tag is natural=ria
cheers,
Martin
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I've learned a lot from the comments here, based on others comments I
think the solution to my issue is to use a tag like like
coastline=pelagic (from wikipedia "A pelagic coast refers to a coast
which fronts the open ocean, as opposed to a more sheltered coast in a
gulf or bay.") on the oceanic co
No, I just tagged the edge of the bay as natural=coastline because this
is the top of the tidal range. Even being more rigorous the
natural=coastline must be shifted far away towards west of current
position. The lower part of Georges River is a typical ria: an
unglaciated valley submerged into
On Tuesday 28 March 2017, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> >
> > A waterbody where plant and animal life matches or is close to that
> > of the sea rather to that of a river or lake.
>
> I think it's a grey area, it's not completely like a river, nor that
> of the sea. But in this case, I'm not sure, what in
Initially I was concerned that by changing the tagging from
natural=water, water=bay to natural=bay that the whole bay would be
rendered as land since that's what the wiki suggests. I now see that
the same user changed the edges of the bay to be natural=coastline to
prevent this.
I'm agree now tha
El 27/03/17 a las 16:48, Juan Pablo Tolosa Sanzana escribió:
>>/It is a bay of the Tasman Sea/Pacific Ocean. Ecologically it is a fully />
maritime waterbody.
>
> What do you mean by "maritime waterbody"?
A maritime waterbody are all those waters under the influence of the tides. You can
rev
/It is a bay of the Tasman Sea/Pacific Ocean. Ecologically it is a fully />
maritime waterbody.
What do you mean by "maritime waterbody"?
A maritime waterbody are all those waters under the influence of the tides. You can
review article for natural=coastline. The coastline should be placed i
I don't think it does to be too fussy about what is 'river' and what is
'sea' and what is 'estuary'.
Near where I live, a hydrologist would classify the Hudson River as
'estuary' as far as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/90929525 because it
has a measurable tide right up to that point. Neverthele
On Monday 27 March 2017, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> > It is a bay of the Tasman Sea/Pacific Ocean. Ecologically it is a
> > fully
>
> maritime waterbody.
>
> What do you mean by "maritime waterbody"?
A waterbody where plant and animal life matches or is close to that of
the sea rather to that of a r
> It is a bay of the Tasman Sea/Pacific Ocean. Ecologically it is a fully
maritime waterbody.
What do you mean by "maritime waterbody"?
If you're in Botany Bay or the other bays there such as
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1333569, you're not at sea or
in the sea, or in the ocean.
If yo
On Monday 27 March 2017, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
> What water body is Botany Bay
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botany_Bay part of?
>
> I don't think it's right too tag the inside of the bay as coastline.
> "A coastline or a seashore is the area where land meets the sea or
> ocean" the inside of th
On 27 March 2017 at 21:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> as there's the coastline as well, it shouldn't produce any problem to remove
> natural=water from the bay. We generally don't add natural=water to the sea:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/148455492#map=13/-33.9809/151.2086
> because they'
On Monday 27 March 2017, Andrew Harvey wrote:
> The wiki for natural=bay says "Since bays are generally part of a
> larger waterbody, either a lake or the ocean, they should not be
> rendered in solid color indicating water themselves."
>
> This creates a conflict with a recent change to Botany Bay
2017-03-27 12:29 GMT+02:00 Andrew Harvey :
>
> What should we do to fix this? Change the wiki to note that it should
> be rendered as water and fix renders?
as there's the coastline as well, it shouldn't produce any problem to
remove natural=water from the bay. We generally don't add natural=w
The wiki for natural=bay says "Since bays are generally part of a
larger waterbody, either a lake or the ocean, they should not be
rendered in solid color indicating water themselves."
This creates a conflict with a recent change to Botany Bay
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1214649 in
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