Re: [Tagging] outdoor nature bath
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:30 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 January 2011 01:42, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I can't comment on the rest, but sport=swimming is incorrect unless the area is for competitive swimming. -1 Swimming pools don't have to be for competitive swimming, eg kiddy pools, but they aren't for bathing in either. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dswimming_pool ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] outdoor nature bath
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@... writes: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:30 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@... wrote: On 10 January 2011 01:42, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@... wrote: I can't comment on the rest, but sport=swimming is incorrect unless the area is for competitive swimming. -1 Swimming pools don't have to be for competitive swimming, eg kiddy pools, but they aren't for bathing in either. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dswimming_pool sport=swimming does not seem like a good tagging of a general bathing area. The sport-key suggest, as Nathan says, a connection to the more devoted swimsporters, a place with sport=swimming probably should have the possibility to swim whole lengths. This could well be the cause in many bathing places, like public swimming baths with 25 or 50 meters pools, those can of course be tagged with sport=swimming too. What I am looking for is a more general tag to say that it is a place to go for a dip, maybe stay the day sun-bathing or swimming if suitable for that. p.s. Regarding the tag swimming_pool, there is a proposal for leisure=swimming_pool http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Swimming_pool and another entry for amenity=swimming_pool http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dswimming_pool they state that these are for both leisure and sport. d.s. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] outdoor nature bath
Johan Jönsson joha...@... writes: --- Steve Bennett stevag...@... skrev: 2011/1/10 Johan Jönsson joha...@...: My thoughts have been on a physical tag like leisure=bathing_area, leisure=public_bath or just simply leisure=bath. The later one would be a tag for all kind of bathing facilities, both outdoor and indoor. Maybe the noun bath isn´t a good one, it might imply some kind of building or pool. How about leisure=swimming? IMHO the word bathe is rarely used these days, and is confused as noted above. Yes, there will be a confusion between leisure=swimming and sport=swimming, but at least it will be an obvious one that we can easily document and explain. Steve leisure=swimming I suppose that swimming in this use also is synonymous with taking a swim, taking a dip. In most uses of the tag it could also mean bathing (that is bathe, the wading, floating and splashing experience), it could be a place also for those that can´t swim too. But not directly taking a bath (with soap and shampoo), although there might be showers and soap-and-water-baths around too, that might have its own amenity-tag. What I have learned from the thread. Do not use the word bath/bathe as it has confusing double meanings. Maybe bath could be used for some speciality markings later on. The use of the key sport: could mean trouble if it isn´t a place where the sport should be exercised for competition or closely connected to that. I will start a new thread with another suggestion. /Johan Jönsson ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] outdoor nature bath
I have been thinking on how to tag an places where one can go to take a bath. In the summer there are designated areas at the sea, lakes and rivers to bath at. Some organized and some simply a natural good spot for a bath. In the winter there are indoor or heated pools of different kind. And old-school bathing houses, hamams and such. Some just simply add sport=swimming to an appropriate physical tag: camping_site, beach, lake, river, park, pier outdoors and building, sports_centre indoors. How about one tag for all of these places: leisure=bath With a bathing person as a symbol: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1_9_2_24.svg That is a head and shoulders rising above the waves, not a swimmer. --- Visa var du kommer ifrån! Skaffa en gratis e-postadress på www.goteborg.cc ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] outdoor nature bath
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Johan Jönsson joha...@goteborg.cc wrote: Some just simply add sport=swimming to an appropriate physical tag: camping_site, beach, lake, river, park, pier outdoors and building, sports_centre indoors. I can't comment on the rest, but sport=swimming is incorrect unless the area is for competitive swimming. Putting it elsewhere would be like putting sport=running on a footway. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] outdoor nature bath
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@... writes: On Sun, 09 Jan 2011 15:48:32 +0100 (CET) Johan Jönsson johan.j at goteborg.cc wrote: How about one tag for all of these places: leisure=bath With a bathing person as a symbol: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:1_9_2_24.svg To bathe and to have a bath are to close in English, and it has caught you too. leisure=swim is unambiguous have a bath is to get clean with soap and hot water bathe is to go for a dip in the water for fun Thank you Elizabeth, I did not know the difference between bathe and bath. The key: leisure is considered a physical key, I think it is supposed to be a place and not an activity. My thoughts have been on a physical tag like leisure=bathing_area, leisure=public_bath or just simply leisure=bath. The later one would be a tag for all kind of bathing facilities, both outdoor and indoor. Maybe the noun bath isn´t a good one, it might imply some kind of building or pool. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] outdoor nature bath
On 10 January 2011 01:42, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: I can't comment on the rest, but sport=swimming is incorrect unless the area is for competitive swimming. -1 Swimming pools don't have to be for competitive swimming, eg kiddy pools, but they aren't for bathing in either. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] outdoor nature bath
--- Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com skrev: 2011/1/10 Johan Jönsson joha...@goteborg.cc: My thoughts have been on a physical tag like leisure=bathing_area, leisure=public_bath or just simply leisure=bath. The later one would be a tag for all kind of bathing facilities, both outdoor and indoor. Maybe the noun bath isn´t a good one, it might imply some kind of building or pool. How about leisure=swimming? IMHO the word bathe is rarely used these days, and is confused as noted above. Yes, there will be a confusion between leisure=swimming and sport=swimming, but at least it will be an obvious one that we can easily document and explain. Steve leisure=swimming I suppose that swimming in this use also is synonymous with taking a swim, taking a dip. In most uses of the tag it could also mean bathing (that is bathe, the wading, floating and splashing experience), it could be a place also for those that can´t swim too. But not directly taking a bath (with soap and shampoo), although there might be showers and soap-and-water-baths around too, that might have its own amenity-tag. --- Visa var du kommer ifrån! Skaffa en gratis e-postadress på www.goteborg.cc ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
