Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc.

2017-11-18 Thread Mark Bradley
> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 17:30:06 +0100 > From: Martin Koppenhoefer > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc. > Message-ID: >il.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&q

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc.

2017-11-17 Thread François Lacombe
Thank you Marc 2017-11-17 19:07 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > yes, just that "tower" is very generic and there are many things that all > are some kind of towers, but do not have to be in the same main tag in OSM > (and often aren't). You see a road? That's not enough for mapping in OSM, >

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc.

2017-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-11-17 17:35 GMT+01:00 marc marc : > Le 17. 11. 17 à 17:30, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > I'm setting up a proposal, > > Please read Francois's reply. > How to map a tower where the usage is unknwon or multiple ? > you can still use man_made=tower if unknown, "multiple" will not really h

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc.

2017-11-17 Thread marc marc
Le 17. 11. 17 à 17:30, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > I'm setting up a proposal, Please read Francois's reply. How to map a tower where the usage is unknwon or multiple ? I find better to have a "step by step" tag You see a tower ? you map a tower. You see how it's used ? you add a tag for its us

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc.

2017-11-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-11-17 17:22 GMT+01:00 Mark Bradley : > You know, after giving it some more thought, I'm not sure what I think. > Forget I said it. I've also been re-thinking about it, and maybe the best is to abandon man_made=tower for everything that can be better described with a more specific tag, e.g.

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc.

2017-11-17 Thread Mark Bradley
> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 18:18:14 +0100 > From: Martin Koppenhoefer > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc. > > 2017-11-16 17:57 GMT+01:00 Mark Bradley : > > > I also like the

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc.

2017-11-17 Thread François Lacombe
*François Lacombe* fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com www.infos-reseaux.com @InfosReseaux 2017-11-16 18:18 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > I would also like to point out that tower:type=communication_tower is >> redundant. Tower:type=communication is

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc.

2017-11-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-11-16 17:57 GMT+01:00 Mark Bradley : > I also like the idea of having all towers under one tag, for the same > reason as marc marc. > can you expand, which kind of "all towers" you mean here. Is this including light towers, water towers, power towers, bell towers, air traffic control towers,

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers, etc.

2017-11-16 Thread Mark Bradley
g@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers etc. > > Le 16. 11. 17 à 13:05, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > B. man_made=tower > > I like the idea to have all tower in a main tag (it allow a mapper to > map it as a tower and after re

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers etc.

2017-11-16 Thread marc marc
Le 16. 11. 17 à 13:05, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > B. man_made=tower I like the idea to have all tower in a main tag (it allow a mapper to map it as a tower and after refine it depending of the use) > tower:type=communication_tower I dislike the "no-meaning" type suffix. Type could be the

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers etc.

2017-11-16 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
There's another similar issue: communication towers. There are basically 2 kind of communication towers, one a subclass of man_made=tower, the other man_made=communications_tower https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man%20made=communications%20tower According to the above wiki page, in opposit

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers etc.

2017-11-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-11-10 3:51 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout : > @Martin, I'm not sure of the meaning of your question. > > I am aware of the use of man_made=water_tower for example and think it > might be better to use the top level tag > man_made=tower > followed by: > tower:type=water_storage (or water_tower) > >

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers etc.

2017-11-09 Thread Christian Müller
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I just noticed that the tagman_made=cooling_tower is deprecated. > The template says the reason is on the deprecated features list, but actually > there is no reasoning there. +1. People are moving forward too fast without documentin

Re: [Tagging] tower types, cooling towers etc.

2017-11-09 Thread Dave Swarthout
@Martin, I'm not sure of the meaning of your question. I am aware of the use of man_made=water_tower for example and think it might be better to use the top level tag man_made=tower followed by: tower:type=water_storage (or water_tower) But it seems the two methods are already in use, namely, usi

[Tagging] tower types, cooling towers etc.

2017-11-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
I just noticed that the tag man_made=cooling_tower is deprecated. The template says the reason is on the deprecated features list, but actually there is no reasoning there. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dcooling_tower The suggested alternative tagging with man_made=tower is _c