Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2012-11-26 at 08:07:58 +1100, Steve Bennett wrote: To be honest, I'm not sure I even see the value in coding year groups - what does year_group=7-12 tell you that Blah Blah High School doesn't? The use case of a parent choosing where to send their kids is such a rare one, and involves so

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
I would avoid public, when tagging schools as it had very different meanings on each side of the Atlantic. I would suggest state and private. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 25/11/2012 23:58 Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Is this information something that should be placed in a geodatabase

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread Simone Saviolo
2012/11/23 Kytömaa Lauri lauri.kyto...@aalto.fi The idea is that with a 30 driving rules list applying to an agglomération If it's just the traffic rules urban vs. rural, there's the tag (with 37 000+ uses) zone:traffic=**:rural zone:traffic=**:urban where ** is the two letter country

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread Jo
zone:traffic=**:rural zone:traffic=**:urban source:maxspeed=zone30 highway=living_street have an effect on other traffic rules as well, so it's important to know that's the 'regime' the street is under. As a data consumer I also prefer to have the maxspeed be tagged explicitly. That's true for

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
I think that is very country specific, not something that can be tagged worldwide. In the UK, beyond speed limits, there are no rule differences between urban and rural roads. However you have me curious, how do you see the rules as different? Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/11/2012

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gross vehicle weight rating

2012-11-26 Thread Eckhart Wörner
Hi Rob, Am Sonntag, 25. November 2012, 23:40:04 schrieb Rob Nickerson: In the UK I've spotted that some maximum weight road signs have just the weight limit on the sign, whilst others also include a picture of a HGV. I've only realised this difference recently and have not had time to

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: I would avoid public, when tagging schools as it had very different meanings on each side of the Atlantic. I would suggest state and private. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 25/11/2012 23:58 Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Is this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gross vehicle weight rating

2012-11-26 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Rob, Am Sonntag, 25. November 2012, 23:40:04 schrieb Rob Nickerson: In the UK I've spotted that some maximum weight road signs have just the weight limit on the sign, whilst others also include a picture of a HGV. I've only realised this difference recently and have not had time to

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/26 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: I would avoid public, when tagging schools as it had very different meanings on each side of the Atlantic. I would suggest state and private. Of course, the term state will also likely be misunderstood

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Have we an alternative? Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/11/2012 12:19 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/11/26 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: Philip Barnes j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: I would avoid public, when tagging schools as it had very different meanings on each side of the

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread Kytömaa Lauri
Simone Saviolo: if you need to tag the maxspeed anyway, then what's the point of that tag? It's not about the maxspeed, but the area that supposed to be considered urban, and interesting in itself. The rural/urban distinction affects other rules, even outside of the traffic code. Here the

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/26 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: Have we an alternative? Could you expand on what is the problem with public? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, such as Eaton, Harrow etc. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/11/2012 12:24 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/11/26 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: Have we an alternative? Could you expand on what is the problem with

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/26 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, such as Eaton, Harrow etc. thanks for clarification, for those interested in further info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_school_(United_Kingdom) The state_school article (

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Government sounds good to me. It works for either local or national government. Phil -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/11/2012 12:40 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2012/11/26 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, such as Eaton,

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Andrew Errington
2012/11/26 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, such as Eaton, Harrow etc. thanks for clarification, for those interested in further info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_school_(United_Kingdom) The state_school

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread Craig Wallace
On 26/11/2012 11:25, Philip Barnes wrote: I think that is very country specific, not something that can be tagged worldwide. In the UK, beyond speed limits, there are no rule differences between urban and rural roads. However you have me curious, how do you see the rules as different? In

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Konfrare Albert
In Spain there are schools named concerted, these are schools that are subsidized schools with public money but are organized by a private structure. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_Org%C3%A1nica_de_Educaci%C3%B3n_%28Espa%C3%B1a%29#Clases_de_centros_escolares There aren't «public» (or

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/11/26 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk: In the UK public schools are expensive fee paying private schools, such as Eaton, Harrow etc. thanks for clarification, for those interested in further info:

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Had forgotten the horn one, although the rule says 'except to avoid an accident', and there are really few other valid uses for the horn. I did look up the full beam rule, and cannot find one. All I can find is a rule that says 'you must not use lights in a way to dazzle or cause discomfort to

[Tagging] zone30/50/70 vs Bebouwde kom/Agglomération/Built-up area (zone:traffic={BE,UK,...}:*)

2012-11-26 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
On 2012-11-23 22:58, Kytömaa Lauri wrote : If it's just the traffic rules urban vs. rural, there's the tag (with 37 000+ uses) zone:traffic=**:rural zone:traffic=**:urban where ** is the two letter country code. On 2012-11-26 13:16, Marc Gemis

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

2012-11-26 Thread A.Pirard.Papou
Hi, As I am against always changing the subject line of discussions, I resent with the original one. But it's also to add that, in my opinion, the tagging must respect the categories that the national law defines (our code de la route). There is no point in trying to forcefully adapt

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gross vehicle weight rating

2012-11-26 Thread Rob Nickerson
Thanks Eckhart, I've just had a bit more time to have a look at different weights and found the following terms: 1. *gross vehicle weight rating* (also *gross vehicle mass*, *GVWR*, *GVM*) - This appears to be a maximum operating weight specified by the manufacturer (hence a rating) and includes

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gross vehicle weight rating

2012-11-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/11/26 Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com: The question is, do the road signs mean actual weight or weight rating? it depends on the sign, for Germany I think that the sign with actual numbers on it (maxweight) is about the actual weight of the vehicle (like also the one restricting

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Gross vehicle weight rating

2012-11-26 Thread Rob Nickerson
I've just checked the UK road sign guidance too [1]. Section 5.15 (page 35 describes the sign with the image of a HGV and a weight restriction number. It clearly states that this is a restriction for environmental reasons (e.g. where roads are narrow and unsuitable for large vehicles, or to

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 38, Issue 52, message 7

2012-11-26 Thread St Niklaas
Message: 7 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 12:47:30 + From: Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools Message-ID:

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] street name expansion thoughts

2012-11-26 Thread John F. Eldredge
Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: I've been cleaning up are area of Jackson County, NC and found roads where the name expansion algorithm failed to expand all of the abbreviations . For example Yellow