Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-13 Thread Richard Z.
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:43:58PM +0200, Janko Mihelić wrote: 2014-04-12 20:39 GMT+02:00 John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com: I have never used this key before because of the drawback you mentioned: There is no editor supporting this tag when reverting a way direction, Does anyone else

Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-13 Thread ael
On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 11:57:12PM +0200, Colin Smale wrote: Have to disagree here. There are plenty of real uses for reversing a way, and not everyone uses JOSM. Colin +1 from someone who does use JOSM. ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] access=designated - what do we think it means?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 11/apr/2014 um 19:02 schrieb Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl: All access=designated tags should be removed. +1, also agree that editors should not suggest meaningless tags cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] access=designated - what do we think it means?

2014-04-13 Thread jonathan
But how can a tag that tells you to follow official designation signs be meaningless unless what you mean is that such a definition is implicit on all ways? Jonathan http://bigfatfrog67.me On 13/04/2014 12:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 11/apr/2014 um 19:02 schrieb Matthijs Melissen

Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-13 Thread fly
I have no problems using forward/backward on way but on nodes this does not make sense and in my opinion we need to discourage the usage in favour of cardinal coordinates either as number or as letters (West, South southeast, NWW, S and so on). fly Am 12.04.2014 20:39, schrieb John Packer: I

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ? (a typical OSM story)

2014-04-13 Thread fly
Am 12.04.2014 20:52, schrieb Nelson A. de Oliveira: So the wiki will stay allowing and saying to use noexit on ways too, even if the majority agree that it shouldn't be like this? The german page will exclude ways and all other communities can discuss this issue on

Re: [Tagging] access=designated - what do we think it means?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 13/apr/2014 um 14:11 schrieb jonathan jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me: But how can a tag that tells you to follow official designation signs be meaningless unless what you mean is that such a definition is implicit on all ways? access=designated is not defined, designated is to be used on

Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 12/apr/2014 um 19:43 schrieb John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: Since a node is a point, and has no dimensions, a direction tag is meaningless. +1 cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-13 Thread fly
Am 13.04.2014 16:25, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 12/apr/2014 um 19:43 schrieb John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com: Since a node is a point, and has no dimensions, a direction tag is meaningless. +1 Martin, throught you wrote something different about benches last week on

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ? (a typical OSM story)

2014-04-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10.04.2014 18:08, André Pirard wrote: In other words, 40% tags (on ways) can't be wrong. But the problem is that 99.+% of these correct tags are mistakes and shouldn't even exist because they do not represent ways ending near another way, which are the targets of noexit=yes, but

Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-13 Thread Steve Doerr
I'm surprised that so many people are jumping to this conclusion. Let's remember that a way is just a series of nodes in a particular order. So a node is not necessarily an isolated object. In many cases, it exists solely as part of a way. Thus the concept of direction is not meaningless for a

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes on ways ? (a typical OSM story)

2014-04-13 Thread John Packer
What, in tagging a way, indicates on which end of it is the dead end? I asked that already). The question does not make sense. Of course the end that is not connected to another highway is the dead-end. If the way should not be connected to anything on either side it will already be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - drinking_water

2014-04-13 Thread Rudolf Martin
Ready to vote? Other than former discussions about drinking water there are not many comments to this proposal. Should I start a voting or cancel the proposal due to lacking interest? A voting, without voters is not desirable. What do you think? Rudolf Am 02.04.2014 22:18:07 schrieb(en)

Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 13/apr/2014 um 16:45 schrieb fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com: If we proper define the direction, there is not problem with direction=* on nodes. E.g. directions for benches are taken from a sitting position and in general the wiki talks about facing the direction which in my

Re: [Tagging] direction=forward/backward on nodes ?

2014-04-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 13/apr/2014 um 21:35 schrieb Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com: Thus the concept of direction is not meaningless for a node which is part of a way. I haven't examined any uses of the tag on a node, but I can imagine, for instance, that a node in a way with a direction attribute