Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-10 Thread Warin
On 10/11/18 17:12, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: As far as I'm concerned, it can go to vote! I to am fairly happy. However there is no need to rush. - The spectre of office=visa hangs. If embassies/consulates remained in the 'amenity' key then there would be the opportunity

Re: [Tagging] رد: New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
Can you give example of a country not mapped as an area and incorrectly mapped as a node? 10. Nov 2018 07:01 by hubais...@outlook.com : > I am talking about nodes not areas or ways. Most of seas in OSM are tagged on > node element. Also countries most of them are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-10 Thread Allan Mustard
Office=visa_application would handle that. Or office=company, company=visa_application. Such offices are not diplomatic facilities, but rather are commercial (they are contractors). Thus they don’t fit under office=diplomatic anyway and don’t fall under the scope of this proposal. That said,

Re: [Tagging] رد: New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread OSMDoudou
Can you show an example of where it’s not appearing properly ? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Slipways (for boats)

2018-11-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
9. Nov 2018 18:58 by a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk : > The wiki tells us to use "leisure=slipway": > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dslipway > > > but many slipways are primarily

Re: [Tagging] New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Dave F
Every tag is for the renderer, otherwise all maps would be black lines & dots. As your link clearly states: /"Don't deliberately enter data *incorrectly* for the renderer" / The tag 'layer' is purely to aid renderings. Cheers DaveF On 09/11/2018 18:04, OSMDoudou wrote: Looks like

Re: [Tagging] New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 2:47 PM Greg Troxel wrote: In the case of tag saying what angle to draw something, that's a > specific drawing instruction, and I don't think it belongs. Not on labels. On (some) objects such as benches and tourist maps we already have tags to represent the direction

[Tagging] رد: رد: New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread دار الآثار للنشر والتوزيع-صنعاء Dar Alathar-Yemen
I think I did not understand you, because in https://overpass-turbo.eu/ Query: node [place=country]; out; outputs nearly all countries and query area [place=country] ; out; outputs only 3 countries من: Mateusz Konieczny ‏‏تم الإرسال: Saturday, November

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-10 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:25 AM Allan Mustard wrote: > > Now, unless there is consensus that we need another two weeks of > comment, I intend within the next two days to submit this proposal for a > vote. > Go for it. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Dave F
On 10/11/2018 14:46, Greg Troxel wrote: Dave F writes: Every tag is for the renderer, otherwise all maps would be black lines & dots. As your link clearly states: /"Don't deliberately enter data *incorrectly* for the renderer" / The tag 'layer' is purely to aid renderings. That's not

Re: [Tagging] New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Dave F writes: > On 10/11/2018 14:46, Greg Troxel wrote: >> Dave F writes: >> >>> Every tag is for the renderer, otherwise all maps would be black lines >>> & dots. As your link clearly states: >>> /"Don't deliberately enter data *incorrectly* for the renderer" >>> / >>> >>> The tag 'layer' is

Re: [Tagging] رد: رد: New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Marc Gemis
Because all countries are mapped with relations of type boundary... Op za 10 nov. 2018 12:12 schreef دار الآثار للنشر والتوزيع-صنعاء Dar Alathar-Yemen I think I did not understand you, because in https://overpass-turbo.eu/ > > Query: > > node > > [place=country]; > > out; > > > > outputs

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

2018-11-10 Thread Allan Mustard
John and Warin are correct.  These are not government offices.  They are either contractors (private firms with a government contract) or lawyers/paralegals offering visa application assistance. When I was posted to Istanbul three decades ago, before computers took over, some enterprising fellows

Re: [Tagging] Slipways (for boats)

2018-11-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 20:58, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > leisure=splipway is perfectly fine +1, I'm in favour of leaving things as they are. What's the point in changing it now given it's already extensively used for non-leisure purposes? The leisure key is just an historical artefact now, and

Re: [Tagging] New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Dave F
On 10/11/2018 15:08, Greg Troxel wrote: Dave F writes: On 10/11/2018 14:46, Greg Troxel wrote: Dave F writes: Every tag is for the renderer, otherwise all maps would be black lines & dots. As your link clearly states: /"Don't deliberately enter data *incorrectly* for the renderer" /

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-10 Thread Allan Mustard
Sometimes, you can.  It depends on the type of liaison office.  AIT and TECRO both issue visas.  The State of Virginia office in New Delhi, obviously not. On 11/10/2018 9:02 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > You can not usually get a visa from a liaison office, or can you?

Re: [Tagging] visa offices tags

2018-11-10 Thread Allan Mustard
This is a contractor, so it is not a government office.  The U.S. government does this also in high-volume consular districts.  Application is made through a contractor, though the interview takes place in the consulate.  Office=visa_application would be more accurate, since visa adjudication

[Tagging] رد: رد: New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread دار الآثار للنشر والتوزيع-صنعاء Dar Alathar-Yemen
For OpenStreetMap rendrer: https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?whereami=1=-1.406%2C0.220#map=3/-18.56/24.43 Somalia, Madagasikara,Yemen اليمن, Oman عمان will be best if they have a rotate angle India does not appear, Kynia has a chance to appear if Somalia has rotate angle also Ghana have

Re: [Tagging] رد: New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 10. Nov 2018, at 07:01, دار الآثار للنشر والتوزيع-صنعاء Dar Alathar-Yemen > wrote: > > I am talking about nodes not areas or ways. Most of seas in OSM are tagged on > node element. Also countries most of them are tagged on node element these country nodes come from

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-10 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 10. Nov 2018, at 06:23, Allan Mustard wrote: > > I plowed through the comments and have rewritten and moved the > amenity=consulate proposal to office=diplomatic. You may find the > rewritten proposal here: > >

Re: [Tagging] رد: رد: New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 11/10/18 8:52 AM, دار الآثار للنشر والتوزيع-صنعاء Dar Alathar-Yemen wrote: For OpenStreetMap rendrer: *https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?whereami=1=-1.406%2C0.220#map=3/-18.56/24.43* *Somalia, Madagasikara,Yemen **اليمن, Oman **عمانwill be best if they have a rotate angle* *India

Re: [Tagging] New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Dave F writes: > Every tag is for the renderer, otherwise all maps would be black lines > & dots. As your link clearly states: > /"Don't deliberately enter data *incorrectly* for the renderer" > / > > The tag 'layer' is purely to aid renderings. That's not true. It represents things being

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 110, Issue 70

2018-11-10 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 5:25 PM Jack Burke wrote: > > Unfortunately, there *are* people out there who seem to blindly follow > instructions from their GPS navigation system and don't really do much > in the way of thinking > This is a point worth remembering. Every couple of years there's

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

2018-11-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
8. Nov 2018 02:59 by daveswarth...@gmail.com : > Another part of the problem is the Wiki that we treat as our bible. I  am not sure whatever anyone present on this mailing list is doing this.In case that someone is doing it: remember that WIki is missing plenty

Re: [Tagging] رد: رد: New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
10. Nov 2018 14:52 by hubais...@outlook.com : > > For OpenStreetMap rendrer: > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?whereami=1=-1.406%2C0.220#map=3/-18.56/24.43 > > > > Somalia,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 110, Issue 70

2018-11-10 Thread Jack Burke
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 1:02 AM wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 21:04:57 +0100 > From: Richard > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Reversible Road tagging > Message-ID: <20181109200457.GA3881@rz.localhost.localdomain> >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-10 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Just a suggestion. Under the "Additional tags routinely used would include" section, name=* and country=* are listed. I think the target=* tag (for the receiving country) should also be included since it is already documented in the amenity=embassy page. (I am not sure if "target" is a good term

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-10 Thread Allan Mustard
Good catch, Eugene, thanks.  Especially useful for missions to multilateral organizations (e.g., EU, NATO, UN, WTO, Shanghai Cooperation Organization, etc.) On 11/11/2018 7:33 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Just a suggestion. Under the "Additional tags routinely used would > include" section,

Re: [Tagging] Reversible Road tagging

2018-11-10 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:06 PM Richard wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 07:59:22PM +0100, yo paseopor wrote: > > One little point > > > > Untill now GPS navigation is orientative, not compulsory, obligatory or > > have-to-do. So instead your Osmand says you go in opposite direction, you > >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-10 Thread Warin
On 11/11/18 17:49, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 12:34, Eugene Alvin Villar > wrote: Just a suggestion. Under the "Additional tags routinely used would include" section, name=* and country=* are listed. I think the target=* tag (for the

Re: [Tagging] رد: رد: New rag to draw node name with rotate angle

2018-11-10 Thread Dave Swarthout
Martin's example illustrates what I've been doing with bays and straits in Alaska lately. Before I started doing this, all the bays in Alaska were marked with simple nodes that were imported many years ago from GNIS or somewhere. I hated that because they were all but invisible on most map

Re: [Tagging] Reversible Road tagging

2018-11-10 Thread Paul Johnson
Are we talking a 1 lane or a 3 lane road? Because that looks like it's describing a 3 lane road. On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 1:00 PM yo paseopor wrote: > One little point > > Untill now GPS navigation is orientative, not compulsory, obligatory or > have-to-do. So instead your Osmand says you go in

Re: [Tagging] How to tag named group of named water areas?

2018-11-10 Thread Dave Swarthout
Mateusz, The problem is how to get enough agreement and understanding to correct the Wiki. You can see how difficult that would be when even the regular contributors to the tagging list can't agree on what's correct. Imagine how overwhelmed new mappers must feel when they work on their first

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (consulate)-->(office=diplomatic)

2018-11-10 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 12:34, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Just a suggestion. Under the "Additional tags routinely used would > include" section, name=* and country=* are listed. I think the target=* tag > (for the receiving country) should also be included since it is already > documented in