[Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

About the subject I used to tag the link with the lowest way class but in: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Link_roads_between_different_highways_types Link roads between different highways types - OpenStreetMap

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

Am 15.01.2019 um 00:29 schrieb Dave Swarthout: Now, if we could only get rid of tourism_caravan_site and replace it with tourism=campground. Sigh. That'll never happen but it should. whoow - please do not stumble over the next misleading OSM-keys. ;-) I think you mean tourism=camp_site,

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

Am 15.01.2019 um 14:43 schrieb Marc Gemis: On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:55 PM Georg Feddern wrote: tourism=caravan_site is the one where you (at least in Europe) only can stay with motorhomes (selfpropelled) - but not with caravans (towed). but the wiki states on

Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

I think agreeing with the higher level is correct as the link usually inheirets, or at least tolerates, the rules and design standards for the higher road. On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 04:51 Saeed Hubaishan About the subject I used to tag the link with the lowest way class but in: > >

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

On 15 January 2019 10:02:34 GMT, althio wrote: >That sounds strange to me. >I would not say we "map the needs", I would say we "map features or >equipment", for people with particular needs (such as people with >disabilities). > >I preferred "mapping _for_ the needs..." > No problem with that.

Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 11:52 Saeed Hubaishan wrote: About the subject I used to tag the link with the lowest way class but in: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Link_roads_between_different_highways_types it guides to use the hightest way class.

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:55 PM Georg Feddern wrote: > > tourism=caravan_site is the one where you (at least in Europe) only can > stay with motorhomes (selfpropelled) - but not with caravans (towed). > but the wiki states on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcaravan_site "A

Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

I agree with you. For roundabouts and circular junctions, I use the highest type. For link roads, the lowest. I could see an exception for motorway onramps, indicating "starting here you can't get off the motorway". On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 11:52 Saeed Hubaishan About the subject I used to

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

The confusion is mainly in the difference between irrigation canals vs irrigation ditches and drainage diches vs drains. In practice wide irrigation channels are called canals whereas small ones are called diches and people tend to tag them as such. This tendency is enforced by the fact that

[Tagging] رد: Link roads between different highways type

In usual the links in my country Yemen are lesser in their design than the two ways that it linked between, you can see a trunk way with 4 lanes for every direction linked with a secondary way with 2 lanes for every direction with only one lane link. In the link you can't drive with the

Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

On 15 January 2019 14:03:38 GMT, Paul Johnson wrote: >I think agreeing with the higher level is correct as the link usually >inheirets, or at least tolerates, the rules and design standards for >the >higher road. The exception will be where a motorway ends at a roundabout, the roundabout will

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 16:11, Tod Fitch wrote: I assume “line the boy with concrete” to mean “line the ditch with > concrete”. > Nope. Of course, you can read it that way if you wish, but I have strange hobbies. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

I did once have an issue with josm complaining about the classification of this roundabout. https://osm.org/go/eux0WFrmx- Phil (trigpoint) On 15 January 2019 15:43:39 GMT, Volker Schmidt wrote: >In reality this varies from case to case and from country to country. >The important part is

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

We Dutch are born tall and shrink after puberty, so we'll have to resort to age and maturity. In contrast, our drains and ditches (sloten en slootjes) are rejuvenated yearly, come in all sizes, and make no difference between draining and irrigating. Also, they can be free flow but not

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

At what size is it that a ditch turns into a drain? Vr gr Peter Elderson Op di 15 jan. 2019 om 14:28 schreef Eugene Podshivalov : > The confusion is mainly in the difference between irrigation canals vs > irrigation ditches and drainage diches vs drains. > > In practice wide irrigation

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 15:22, Peter Elderson wrote: > At what size is it that a ditch turns into a drain? > The same size that a boy turns into a man. Or when you line the boy with concrete. -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 19:51, Mark Wagner wrote: > If you use "shop=mobile_home" as the top-level tag, it'll almost never > be tagged correctly in the United States. In the US, a > "shop=mobile_home" is this: > Therefore nothing suggested so far is going to work. relocatable_residence anyone?

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:59:35 + Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 22:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > Wow, so much for me naively thinking that caravan was a universal > > word! Should know better by now :-) > > > > Yeah, where are the camels? It's not a proper caravan

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 06:07, Paul Allen wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 19:51, Mark Wagner wrote: > >> If you use "shop=mobile_home" as the top-level tag, it'll almost never >> be tagged correctly in the United States. In the US, a >> "shop=mobile_home" is this: >> > Same thing in Australia.

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 20:45, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > It was mentioned earlier that both handicapped & disabled are no longer > "nice" words, & are currently changing to "special needs". > > So how about "Mapping the special needs of people with disabilities"? > But that still mentions

[Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

> What started the whole thing off was me wanting to map one of these Directly from the signs out front, and some assumptions: - Caravan retailing - Used caravan retailing

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 00:57, Philip Barnes wrote: > > On 15 January 2019 10:02:34 GMT, althio wrote: > > How to map for the needs of people with disabilities. > It was mentioned earlier that both handicapped & disabled are no longer "nice" words, & are currently changing to "special needs".

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On 15/01/19 23:53, Georg Feddern wrote: Am 15.01.2019 um 00:29 schrieb Dave Swarthout: Now, if we could only get rid of tourism_caravan_site and replace it with tourism=campground. Sigh. That'll never happen but it should. whoow - please do not stumble over the next misleading OSM-keys.

[Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

> Therefore nothing suggested so far is going to work. It might be a radical idea, but there is usually an industry association for any domain, at the international, regional, and country level and they frequently publish marketing and production and sales statistics which use sectors and

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:08 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 06:07, Paul Allen wrote: >> Actually, id (dunno about other editors) handles this by having aliases of >> certain terms. Which would allow mappers to type in RV or mobile home, or >> caravan or anything else

Re: [Tagging] رد: Link roads between different highways type

There is no residential_link or unclassified_link, so if you try to use the lower road’s classification, you will run into problems. And if you tag the link with the lowest way class, when would you use motorway_link? Only at an interchange between two motorways? The general practice in the USA

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

Graeme, I like the definitions you posted but why add "channel" to the list? When I think of a channel I think of a shipping lane or a dredged channel where ships with deeper drafts can pass through shallow water. From my online dictionary: 1. the bed of a stream, river, or other waterway. 2.

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

sent from a phone > On 15. Jan 2019, at 22:48, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > Essentially, I don't think we're going to come up with anything better > than 'do something arbitrary, and open tickets on the four or five > most-widely-used editors asking their maintainers for help.' from what we have

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 10:28, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Although the 1st definition sort of agrees with your usage, the common > definition in the U.S. is closer to the other two. There are several other > definitions given but most of them are similar to those two. So it will be > a bit

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On 16/01/19 09:34, Michael Patrick wrote: > What started the whole thing off was me wanting to map one of these Directly from the signs out front, and some assumptions: # Caravan retailing

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

OK, so after taking in everybody's thoughts & comments (thanks! :-)), I've come up with: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcaravan https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shop%3Dmotorhome https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shop%3Drecreational_vehicle How's that? As always, all

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On 16/01/19 11:53, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 10:28, Dave Swarthout > wrote: Although the 1st definition sort of agrees with your usage, the common definition in the U.S. is closer to the other two. There are several other

Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:02 AM Philip Barnes wrote: > > > On 15 January 2019 14:03:38 GMT, Paul Johnson wrote: > >I think agreeing with the higher level is correct as the link usually > >inheirets, or at least tolerates, the rules and design standards for > >the > >higher road. > > The

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 23:28, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: > The confusion is mainly in the difference between irrigation canals vs > irrigation ditches and drainage diches vs drains. > > In practice wide irrigation channels are called canals whereas small ones > are called diches and people tend

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

Michael Patrick: > What's a 'Horse Float' under RVs? https://i.gifer.com/SC79.gif > Seriously, this term is a great example of a regional difference. In the > U.S., it's equine dental / foot care. On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:57 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > In Australia a 'horse float'

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 15:27, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > Ah. In the US we say just, 'horse trailer.' The only time I think we > use 'float' in anything near that sense is 'parade float' - an > elaborately decorated vehicle taking part in a parade, often carrying > performers or dignitaries. > Yep,

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

On 14 January 2019 19:15:04 GMT, Richard wrote: >On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 11:43:15AM +, Paul Allen wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 22:37, Philip Barnes >wrote: > >it is a howto, so I will rename it accordingly.. not quite sure yet >which >name to choose: > >* Howto mapping for the needs of

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

Perfect! On 2019-01-15 10:00, Philip Barnes wrote: > How to map the needs of people with disabilities smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

> On Jan 15, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 15:22, Peter Elderson > wrote: > At what size is it that a ditch turns into a drain? > > The same size that a boy turns into a man. Or when you line the boy with > concrete. > I assume

Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

In reality this varies from case to case and from country to country. The important part is that the access rules are correct, and explicitly tagged, where needed. The general rule, i.e. to use the higher-level tagging takes largely care of this, as normally the higher-level road class has more

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

That sounds strange to me. I would not say we "map the needs", I would say we "map features or equipment", for people with particular needs (such as people with disabilities). I preferred "mapping _for_ the needs..." -- althio On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 10:15, Sergio Manzi wrote: > > Perfect! > >