Re: [Tagging] Correct use of height with kerb

2020-01-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
Stupid me, thank you. Had not read the wiki page. On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 07:17, Alessandro Sarretta < alessandro.sarre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Volker, > > the values raised and lowered for a kerb (node) are related to the > vertical gap between sidewalk/crossing and not really to the

Re: [Tagging] POI data and Addresses on areas - Was: addresses on buildings

2020-01-12 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:39:44PM -0500, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > I was thinking about this whole thing earlier. Caution, wall of text. > > At the risk of being philosophical, what is an address exactly? > > Our wiki doesn't specify which address we're talking about: Thats not the issue i am

Re: [Tagging] Correct use of height with kerb

2020-01-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
And stupid selection of values, if you are not a native English speaker: A "lowererd" kerb is just a bit raised, but a "raised" kerb is fully raised. (I know now that this comes from the kerb types "raised kerb" and "lowered kerb") On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 09:40, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Stupid

Re: [Tagging] Addition of amenity=conference_center to Map Features page

2020-01-12 Thread Jez Nicholson
Yes, there's a big issue with the tag, it isn't in British English, the official language of OSM. I'd like to check that iD hasn't got it in its presets. On Sat, 11 Jan 2020, 04:05 Joseph Eisenberg, wrote: > Another wiki user recently added amenity=conference_center to the list > of Map

Re: [Tagging] Addition of amenity=conference_center to Map Features page

2020-01-12 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Sorry, you are correct, the tag is amenity=conference_centre (The American English term is "Convention Center) On 1/12/20, Hauke Stieler wrote: > Hi, > > I think he misspelled it in the email. The tag page is in British > English [0] and the American English tag "conference_center" has only >

Re: [Tagging] Addition of amenity=conference_center to Map Features page

2020-01-12 Thread Hauke Stieler
Hi, I think he misspelled it in the email. The tag page is in British English [0] and the American English tag "conference_center" has only been used 44 times. The word "conference_center" does not appear on the "2.x" branch of iD. However the documented British English value "conference_centre"

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 13. Jan 2020, at 06:51, Marc Gemis wrote: > > To come back to tagging: so people seem to have a problem with > amenity=recycle in case of reuse, but do not have a problem with > amenity=vending_machine for such a machine (that does not sell anything). Or > am I

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Marc Gemis
I was thinking of speciality beers (which do not come in crates), but especially of wine bottles. AFAIK, there is little to no difference in the bottle, but it might depend on who bottled the wine. If the wine is bottled by the supermarket itself, you can return the bottle, otherwise not. At least

Re: [Tagging] POI data and Addresses on areas - Was: addresses on buildings

2020-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jan 2020, at 22:35, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > The map can't do everything all the time - at some stage, the driver has to > look out the windscreen & make some of the decisions themselves! this, and we can add all those places you mentioned so that everybody

Re: [Tagging] Rare route=* values - route=power

2020-01-12 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Joseph, Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 06:21, Joseph Eisenberg a écrit : > Who is using route=power? > Some electricity mappers including me. route=power represents a circuit (metallic continuity) between two or more substations. It is different from a line as a physical lines can hold several of

Re: [Tagging] POI data and Addresses on areas - Was: addresses on buildings

2020-01-12 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 21:40, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > And this is not solvable without mapper input as a huge area like > an Airport can not be mapped to a single "best point" on the > routable network. > & I don't think it will ever be simply solvable. Why are you driving to "the airport"?

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

2020-01-12 Thread Warin
On 13/1/20 10:23 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Paris is the capital of France because it has all the main government facilities: the legislature, the executive, the judiciary and most ministries. Routes that are mapped in Openstreetmap need to be signed or marked in a visible way. Otherwise

Re: [Tagging] Rare route=* values - route=power

2020-01-12 Thread Warin
On 13/1/20 11:36 am, François Lacombe wrote: Hi Joseph, Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 06:21, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> a écrit : Who is using route=power? Some electricity mappers including me. route=power represents a circuit (metallic continuity) between two or

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

2020-01-12 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
Paris is the capital of France because it has all the main government facilities: the legislature, the executive, the judiciary and most ministries. Routes that are mapped in Openstreetmap need to be signed or marked in a visible way. Otherwise every Stava user will add their favorite training

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Jan 2020, at 18:15, Marc Gemis wrote: > > I don't understand this "typology of container that is accepted". Some > glass bottles I have into put a container, others I can return to a > shop and get some money back. There is no difference in container, the > only

Re: [Tagging] POI data and Addresses on areas - Was: addresses on buildings

2020-01-12 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Sun, 12 Jan 2020 at 06:38, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 09:39:44PM -0500, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > > I was thinking about this whole thing earlier. Caution, wall of text. > > > > At the risk of being philosophical, what is an address exactly? > > > > Our wiki doesn't

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Jake Edmonds via Tagging
Here is the list of brands accepted at three stores near by. I also checked two others, one had a picture of various shapes and colours (with no labels) of bottles and the other lists ‘beer 0,33l, beer 0,5l) but both did have a list of which brands of plastic crates are accepted Fresh Fresh 2

Re: [Tagging] How to tag oneway restriction applying to pedestrians?

2020-01-12 Thread Dave F via Tagging
The OP clearly defines the scope of his question with "pedestrian highways" ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

2020-01-12 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 21:20, marc marc a écrit : > > Le 11.01.20 à 21:05, Florimond Berthoux a écrit : > > What do you think ? > > avoid the word "type" in a key as it as no additional meaning. > type can be everything (type of operator, difficulty, use, length, ...) That's why I use

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

2020-01-12 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 22:22, Peter Elderson a écrit : > > Florimond Berthoux : >> >> So I propose to use for bicycle route >> bicycle:type=trekking/road_bike/commute/mtb >> > > I don't think commute is a type of bicycle? Trekking maybe, but here in Nederland they call a lot of bicycles

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

2020-01-12 Thread Peter Elderson
Sorry, but this is not a useful classification for bicycle routes in Nederland. Best, Peter Elderson Op zo 12 jan. 2020 om 17:34 schreef Florimond Berthoux < florimond.berth...@gmail.com>: > Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 22:22, Peter Elderson a > écrit : > > > > Florimond Berthoux : > >> > >> So I

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

2020-01-12 Thread Florimond Berthoux
Asking me how do I know that Eurovelo 3 is for tourism or bicycle trekking is like asking me how do I know that Paris is the capital of France. « Is there a sign saying that Paris is the capital of France? May be we should remove that tag, don't you think?... » You don't need sign post to have a

Re: [Tagging] How to tag oneway restriction applying to pedestrians?

2020-01-12 Thread Jmapb via Tagging
On 1/11/2020 7:13 PM, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 18:18, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/97010406 - It was originally a vehicle route but was changed to pedestrian with painted bike and foot lanes. For motor vehicles, only emergency and

Re: [Tagging] amenity=vending_machine/vending=bottle_return - operator=

2020-01-12 Thread Marc Gemis
> > Is the different between recycling and reusing important for the average > > consumer who a) wants to claim their deposit and b) doesn’t want to put > > the item into landfill? > > > first of all it is indicating the (rough) typology of container that is > accepted, secondly it would seem