Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

2020-06-02 Thread Daniel Westergren
> > I think the reason that this is so messed up because of the desire to tag > according to function. A trail/path can have many users/functions, but > it's still a dirt path. > Right. But is there another way? Can we tag dirt paths/wilderness paths/forest paths/mountain paths with another

[Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-02 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Hi, all: Let's say we have a natural=scrub for example. Inside it (a part of it) becomes seasonally wet, for example during the rainy (wet) season. How would you better map this? Some possible approaches: 1. Having the area of all the scrub as natural=scrub, and the area that becomes wet in

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-02 Thread Paul Allen
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 12:23, Volker Schmidt wrote: Anyway the examples you find in OSM are few and in all cases I know the > completely erased bits are a tiny part of the overall ex-railway. > There are three ex-railways in my area (possibly more). Even though the rail part of those railways

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Heavily-wooded residential polygons

2020-06-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 2, 2020, 13:11 by g...@lexort.com: > First, I'm going to assume that polygons for landuse=residential do or > are intended to align with property boundaries. > I think that it is not a good assumption. One may have a property boundary that is partially landuse=residential and partially

Re: [Tagging] Covered walkways?

2020-06-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 2, 2020, 07:34 by graemefi...@gmail.com: > Doing some mapping around one of the local schools & wondering about the best > way to map covered walkways? > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=19/-28.06022/153.42615 > > A lot of skinny roofs, with highway=footway + covered=yes drawn

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

2020-06-02 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 09:04, Daniel Westergren wrote: > I think the reason that this is so messed up because of the desire to tag >> according to function. A trail/path can have many users/functions, but >> it's still a dirt path. >> > > Right. But is there another way? Can we tag dirt

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-02 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 05:06, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > How much time do you think I should spend searching for these people who > might know of it? And then once found how much time should I spend trying > to contact them? > > Think about what you are asking an unpaid mapper to do? >

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

2020-06-02 Thread Andy Townsend
On 02/06/2020 13:48, Volker Schmidt wrote: On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 09:04, Daniel Westergren > wrote: I think the reason that this is so messed up because of the desire to tag according to function.   A trail/path can have many users/functions,

Re: [Tagging] Covered walkways?

2020-06-02 Thread Volker Schmidt
Simple mapping: covered=yes Elaborate mapping: building=roof; layer=1 (useful if the geometry matters, e.g. roof wider than footpath) Il mar 2 giu 2020, 07:36 Graeme Fitzpatrick ha scritto: > Doing some mapping around one of the local schools & wondering about the > best way to map covered

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 2, 2020, 03:52 by c933...@gmail.com: > > > 在 2020年6月2日週二 09:26,Warin <> 61sundow...@gmail.com> > 寫道: > >> On 30/5/20 12:48 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> > My main point is that out there are things that consist of visible >> > objects plus objects which have left visible traces, and also

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Heavily-wooded residential polygons

2020-06-02 Thread Greg Troxel
stevea writes: > As I mentioned to Doug I exchanged a couple of emails with > user:jeisenberg (a principal contributor to Carto) about what was > going on with some examples of this, and Mr. Eisenberg explained to me > (in short) that it is a complicated ordering (or re-ordering) of > layers

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

2020-06-02 Thread Tod Fitch
> On Jun 2, 2020, at 5:48 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 09:04, Daniel Westergren > wrote: > I think the reason that this is so messed up because of the desire to tag > according to function. A trail/path can have many users/functions, but

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

2020-06-02 Thread Volker Schmidt
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 16:54, Tod Fitch wrote: > My translation of these two statements combined is roughy: “We can’t > change any tagging”. I don’t find that helpful. > I fear your translation is correct. At least for tags as heavily used as highway=path and highway=track. Deprecating anything

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-02 Thread Joseph Eisenberg
What sort of vegetation is found in the temporary wetland area? If it's bushes and shrubs which are identical to the surrounding area, then it's ok to map the whole area as natural=scrub, and then map the smaller natural=wetland area inside, with the addition of intermittent=yes or seasonal=yes

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-02 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi Rafael, On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 04:05:47PM +0200, Rafael Avila Coya wrote: > Hi, all: > > Let's say we have a natural=scrub for example. Inside it (a part of it) > becomes seasonally wet, for example during the rainy (wet) season. How would > you better map this? Some possible approaches: >

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Heavily-wooded residential polygons

2020-06-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 2, 2020, 20:16 by stevea...@softworkers.com: > "this IS residential landuse." (Not COULD BE, but IS). Yes, this land might > be "natural" now, including being "treed," but I could still build a patio > and bbq there after perhaps cutting down some trees, it is my residential > land

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing, importance of trails in OSM

2020-06-02 Thread Jarek Piórkowski
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 10:52, Tod Fitch wrote: > On Jun 2, 2020, at 5:48 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: >> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 09:04, Daniel Westergren wrote: >>> Right. But is there another way? Can we tag dirt paths/wilderness >>> paths/forest paths/mountain paths with another main tag?

Re: [Tagging] Overlapping naturals

2020-06-02 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Jun 2, 2020, 21:37 by f...@zz.de: > > Hi Rafael, > > On Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 04:05:47PM +0200, Rafael Avila Coya wrote: > >> Hi, all: >> >> Let's say we have a natural=scrub for example. Inside it (a part of it) >> becomes seasonally wet, for example during the rainy (wet) season. How would >>

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-06-02 Thread Mark Wagner
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 12:39:14 +0200 (CEST) Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > Jun 2, 2020, 03:52 by c933...@gmail.com: > > > > > > > 在 2020年6月2日週二 09:26,Warin <> 61sundow...@gmail.com> > 寫道: > > > >> On 30/5/20 12:48 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> > My main point is that out there are