Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread ael via Tagging
On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:45:13PM +0100, Andrea Mazzoleni wrote: > The intention is to make future mappers consider the device precision when > doing corrections. My experience is that many mappers, especially armchair mappers, ignore source tags. I often find that my fairly accurate gps mapping

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Lindsay Barnes
I recently wrote a series of diary entries about my experience with the accuracy of one-device GPS precision. I concluded with a comparison of three devices I had personal experience with including a new Garmin GPSMAP 66sr which I posted here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/bobwz/diary/394711

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
Nov 30, 2020, 14:33 by amadva...@gmail.com: > On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 12:27 PM Warin <> 61sundow...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> imagery may well be better than survey by consumer GPS >> > I agree. Where an image is available I always use it as reference. But most > of the trails of my local

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I would use "survey using high quality dualband GPS (accuracy with X m)" to make it clearly understandable. Most people would be unaware of meaning of "GPS dualband" (I ma quite interested in this topic and I am unsure what is the accuracy difference, especially as there massive differences in

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-30 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 02:36:06PM -0800, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > The proposed new tag, vaccination= available>, seems like a reasonable idea. > > However, it might be necessary to discuss a main feature tag to use in the > case when these are not administered by a clinic or doctor's office or

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Andrea Mazzoleni
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I would use "survey using high quality dualband GPS (accuracy with X m)" > to make it clearly understandable. > This sounds like a good idea. ___

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Warin
On 30/11/20 8:45 am, Andrea Mazzoleni wrote: Hi, I bought a tracking device that supports GPS dualband (also called dual frequency) for high precision mapping, and I'm wondering if I can put this information in the "source" tag. The intention is to make future mappers consider the device

Re: [Tagging] COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-30 Thread Warin
On 19/11/20 6:59 am, Tom Pfeifer wrote: With the first Covid-19 vaccines getting approved, many municipalities are planning facilities for administering mass vaccination. In Berlin, the two former airports Tegel and Tempelhof are planned, along with some sports facilities. This raises the

Re: [Tagging] COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. Nov 2020, at 12:56, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would assume the location of these mass vaccination centers would be widely > publicized and the locations identified. Do they need further identification > within OSM? the same holds true for post

[Tagging] Defining amenity=coast_guard

2020-11-30 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
I run into https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcoast_guard and despite that I have basically zero experience with such objects I am pretty sure that this description (and an old proposal) has a problematic definition It was "A building housing the Coast Guard administrative

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 30. Nov 2020, at 10:46, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > Yes please - I can see planning coming up for vaccinations centers here > in Germany and these are not planned in hospitals but in vacant commercial > buildings which have loads of parking spaces. So using some >

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Andrea Mazzoleni
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 12:27 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > If the intention is to indicate the error/accuracy/uncertainty then > tag/state that. The better GPS devices give indications of this > error/accuracy/uncertainty. > The big advantage of the dualband is not (only) the

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Seth Deegan
You could add a `note=*` to every element. You should probably contact the mappers of that region and explain to them not to add them. I agree that in this case, mapping animal tracks is *especially *necessary. If someone isn't going to map it now, they're going to do so in the future (as you've

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Andrea Mazzoleni
> > I recently wrote a series of diary entries about my experience with the > accuracy of one-device GPS precision. I concluded with a comparison of > three devices I had personal experience with including a new Garmin GPSMAP > 66sr which I posted here: >

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Yves via Tagging
Creating a new tag for this is not a bad idea. Yves Le 30 novembre 2020 21:27:33 GMT+01:00, Seth Deegan a écrit : >You could add a `note=*` to every element. You should probably contact the >mappers of that region and explain to them not to add them. > >I agree that in this case, mapping

[Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread s8evq
Hello everyone, With the Belgian community, we have been in contact with Natuurpunt, our main national nature conservation organization. They are slowing using more and more OSM and recently came to us with the following remark. "Some mappers have added paths that are not actually real paths

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 06:54, Yves via Tagging wrote: > Creating a new tag for this is not a bad idea. > Not a bad idea at all, even if just to stop them being marked as paths, but what would you tag them as? Footpaths etc are currently tagged as highway=xxx, which really isn't appropriate for

Re: [Tagging] Defining amenity=coast_guard

2020-11-30 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 23:29, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I run into https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcoast_guard > and despite that I have basically zero experience with such objects > I am pretty sure that this description (and an old

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Casper van Battum
Adding a `note=*` would not really help much here. The issue is that the paths show up on the maps viewed by people. If we want to to give platforms the ability to not render animal paths, they should be easy to filter out. You can't do that with a generic note. I'm not sure if something

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Paul Allen
On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 21:45, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > Note that there is already an animal=* tag for describing things related > to animals, so that probably shouldn't be overridden. Perhaps a > combination of foot=no and animal=yes satisfies what we're describing? > Or not:highway=path

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Warin
On 1/12/20 10:36 am, Lukas Richert wrote: I wouldn't tag this as foot=no or access=no. There are many trails in my area that are clearly animal tracks and seldom used by people - but it is allowed for people to walk on these and they are sometimes significant shortcuts so allowing routing

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Brian M. Sperlongano
Note that there is already an animal=* tag for describing things related to animals, so that probably shouldn't be overridden. Perhaps a combination of foot=no and animal=yes satisfies what we're describing? On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 4:16 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Warin
On 1/12/20 11:06 am, Casper Van Battum wrote: I believe access=no would apply for this specific situation, in the sense that the organization mentioned doesn't want people walking on the trails. I'm guessing it's either protected land or private property these trails are on. Since the

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Di., 1. Dez. 2020 um 00:39 Uhr schrieb Lukas Richert : > I wouldn't tag this as foot=no or access=no. There are many trails in my > area that are clearly animal tracks and seldom used by people - but it is > allowed for people to walk on these and they are sometimes significant > shortcuts so

Re: [Tagging] COVID-19 vaccination centres

2020-11-30 Thread Warin
On 1/12/20 12:24 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 30. Nov 2020, at 12:56, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I would assume the location of these mass vaccination centers would be widely publicized and the locations identified. Do they need further identification

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Casper Van Battum
I believe access=no would apply for this specific situation, in the sense that the organization mentioned doesn't want people walking on the trails. I'm guessing it's either protected land or private property these trails are on. Since the organization mentioned they didn't want to put up "no

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Tod Fitch
Maybe animal_path=yes|cow|deer|... Where the values cover the various animals that create paths visible on imagery. -- Sent from my phone, please forgive my brevity. > On Monday, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:15 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick (mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com)> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Warin
On 1/12/20 7:46 am, Andrea Mazzoleni wrote: I recently wrote a series of diary entries about my experience with the accuracy of one-device GPS precision. I concluded with a comparison of three devices I had personal experience with including a new Garmin GPSMAP 66sr which I

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 30. Nov. 2020 um 14:36 Uhr schrieb Andrea Mazzoleni < amadva...@gmail.com>: > But most of the trails of my local area are under the woods (low mountain) > and the GPS is the only source of information. > you can use any tag like "source" or "note" to try to convey to the following

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Lukas Richert
I wouldn't tag this as foot=no or access=no. There are many trails in my area that are clearly animal tracks and seldom used by people - but it is allowed for people to walk on these and they are sometimes significant shortcuts so allowing routing over them in some cases would be good.

Re: [Tagging] Defining amenity=coast_guard

2020-11-30 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 09:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Mon, 30 Nov 2020 at 23:29, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > >> I run into https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcoast_guard >> and despite that I have basically zero experience with such

Re: [Tagging] Animal trails

2020-11-30 Thread Minh Nguyen via Tagging
Vào lúc 16:32 2020-11-30, Warin đã viết: I would not encourage the use of the tag 'animal' as it is a real mess! See taginfo for the variety of values that have no coordination. Example animal=wellness ... for which animals and then the problem of tagging that... terrible. animal=wellness is

Re: [Tagging] How to tag for dualband GPS ?

2020-11-30 Thread Andrea Mazzoleni
> Think your confusing two terms; resolution, accuracy > I understand that you mean, but check this detail: https://ibb.co/7ycFW5J At least my impression is that the 1Sec is also more accurate. It's obviously only a single test, and the recording happened at a different time, so indeed it could