[Tagging] School tag

2012-04-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
) There are a lot of possible values for this tag, some of them are: Agriculture, Architecture, Biology, Chemistry, Design, Driving, Economics, Electronics, Geodesy, Geography, Geology, Language, Law, Mathematics, Medicine, Music, Painting, Physics, Sport, etc.. Thanks for your opinions, Janko Mihelić

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Janko Mihelić
but with a block name, and so on.. That tag isn't used for that. I would use place=neighbourhood for the polygon. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] POI for Hotel

2012-05-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/4/15 Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com Somebody should start an OpenServicesDatabase-project, that would host information about hotels, restaurants, cafes, museums and parks with detailed description of amenities provided along with user reviews. /Markus This would be

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the area of a (public) outdoor swimming pool ?

2012-05-24 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/5/24 fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com Hi I want to tag the area (changing rooms/lawn/playground + pools) but I get a problem with leisure=swimming_pool. It is use for the pools but how to tag the whole area ? leisure=water_park is not right (close but than we need some subtagging).

Re: [Tagging] Tag definitions in the OSM wiki and Wikipedia references

2012-06-08 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/6/7 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com My plea is to avoid these links to external ressources and to define all necessary settings in our own wiki. I think that a deeper integration with wikipedia could be a very interesting thing. Maybe some links on our wiki aren't correct,

[Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
in combination with leisure=beach_resort or leisure=marina. This could be useful for easy searching of well equipped, maintained and clean beaches and marinas for tourists. And it's a nice project for mappers on vacation :) Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
for Environmental Education. Maybe the tag should be changed if it's confusing. I added fee so there are no possible conflicts. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
or marinas in Varazzo that have the blue flag? After inspecting, I guess they put Marina di Chiavari in the wrong place.. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] maxspeed=signals

2012-06-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
by other, real-time services. We should only concentrate on the best (fastest) case scenario. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-06-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
this is too much information for osm right now. fee_blue_flag=yes should be enough. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tagging u-turn restriction with continuous painted line

2012-07-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think no_left_turn is the best solution. The line on the middle of the street is not a u-turn indicator, it is an overtake indicator which can be tagged with overtaking=no and overtaking=both. Are you sure that the dotted overtake line allows you to make a u-turn? Janko 2012/7/3 Pieren

Re: [Tagging] Tagging u-turn restriction with continuous painted line

2012-07-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/7/3 Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com I think no_left_turn is the best solution. Actually, no_u_turn would be better. It's the same for the router, but not the same for the user interface. Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Tagging u-turn restriction with continuous painted line

2012-07-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/7/3 Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl Not sure about other countries, but in UK and NL a solid line means (formally) no crossing and not no overtaking. For larger vehicles it might be effectively the same thing, but for motorcycles (for example) it's not as they can overtake another

Re: [Tagging] Tagging u-turn restriction with continuous painted line

2012-07-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/7/3 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk The router does need fixing however as U-turns around a roundabout divider island are rarely sensible and should not be treated as a junction. Phil I think this is the wrong way to look at this. If you rely on routers to make this kinds of

Re: [Tagging] Tagging u-turn restriction with continuous painted line

2012-07-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/7/3 Pieren pier...@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: But anyway, representing the no-crossing is important for routing and we should consolidate the wiki between the overtaking and divider tags. I agree, we could put something like

Re: [Tagging] Tagging u-turn restriction with continuous painted line

2012-07-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/7/3 Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com I still think it's more straight forward to map as two separate ways than to add tags to provide a logically consistent view about how to drive from A to B in a legal way. Bank robbers and emergency vehicle drivers make anyway their own

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-07-06 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/7/6 Glom joha...@goteborg.cc As further information there is a bathing water directive in the European Union that states that all bathing waters should be mapped. There does not seem to be a id-number. Each bathing water is given a rating (Poor/Good/Excellent). (At least in Sweden, the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-07-06 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/7/6 Glom joha...@goteborg.cc I have changed the wiki-proposal to only blue_flag=yes. I will send out an Request For Comments in a new thread. Please fill the page with information. It could be used for other ratings: rating_of_bathing_water=excellent

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Blue flags (Foundation for Environmental Education's Blue flag criteria for beaches and marinas)

2012-07-06 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana petak, 6. srpnja 2012., korisnik Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com je napisao: 2012/7/6 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: amenity=drinking_water [6] there is also some drinking_water=yes, which can e.g. be added to amenity=fountain (where the fountain aspect seems more

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - blue_flag=yes

2012-07-06 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana petak, 6. srpnja 2012., korisnik Martin Vonwald (Imagic) imagic@gmail.com je napisao: Just a quick thought: wouldn't it be more readable if this tag would be a subkey of beach, i.e. beach:blue_flag=yes? So you see at once that this is a property of the beach. Beaches don't get blue

Re: [Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2012-07-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/7/12 Andrew Errington erringt...@gmail.com Can we introduce potable=yes/no and migrate both of those tags to it over time? I don't know if this is for consideration, but the word potable is not very known outside english speaking countries (and maybe french, because it comes from a

Re: [Tagging] Ferry routes, what's the correct approach?

2012-08-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
Ferries are a bit like motorways with tolls, but I don't know what is used on motorways around the world. Fee=yes? Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Carriageway divider

2012-08-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
there is no direct legal route to the other? What about the roads in the countryside? Would you divide roads into lanes if there is a full line, like in the following picture: http://i.imgur.com/p5Oto.png Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging

Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
, maybe you don't want to have them both said. I'm not saying we shouldn't put those words in a name, I'm just saying we have a (small) problem. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-05 Thread Janko Mihelić
:) Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-05 Thread Janko Mihelić
Now that I think of it, there is a third solution, and it is maybe even better than relations. Routes that share a similar seaway can share points and appear as a single way. That way users don't have to mess with relations, and the map is clean. Janko

Re: [Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-05 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/9/5 Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk Are relations supported by OSRM and other routers? On traditional maps ferrys are drawn as a single line for each route, if merged into a single way, how does the user viewing OSM on a screen work out where a ferry goes to and from? Ferry

Re: [Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-05 Thread Janko Mihelić
I opened an issue on OSRM-s Github page: https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project-OSRM/issues/402 Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-07 Thread Janko Mihelić
How do we address durations[1] of ferry lines? It can't be tagged on the way, because different ferry lines have different speeds. And you can't put it on the relation, because one relation can represent several different trips, from island to island. Is the solution to make a separate relation

Re: [Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-07 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/9/7 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com IMHO you can tag this either on the ferry lines (ways) or on the relations, but if you do it you will have to have a distinct object for each line / all lines that share the same properties, i.e. you might have to add more objects

Re: [Tagging] Ferry lines, ways or relations?

2012-09-09 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/9/7 Dave Sutter sut...@intransix.com I was thinking of using the ref tag as the publicly used term for the entity. For example, there is a bus route 110 for SamTrans (San Mateo county, California). I imagine the ref for this route is 110. There could be some added information to specify

Re: [Tagging] Clarify tag access doc

2012-09-13 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think all those designated/official/yes are the same thing. They allow something to go through a certain way. What is different is the source of that allowance. If the source is law (access=yes, access:source=de:law) then it's official. If you have a access:source=sign, then it's designated. If

Re: [Tagging] amenity=kennel

2012-09-14 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/9/14 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com In the USA (at least in Nashville, Tennessee, where I live) veterinary offices often include boarding services for small animals. Some only board one type of animals, but accepting more than one type is more common. Services are tagged like

Re: [Tagging] amenity=kennel

2012-09-14 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana petak, 14. rujna 2012., korisnik SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk je napisao: Saying that implies that people actually use tags such as these. Taginfo suggests otherwise: shop=bicycle: 13,425 service:bicycle:repair: 758 I'm guessing that it's a fair bet that more than 5% of all

Re: [Tagging] how to tag: water enclosure beneath fountains

2012-10-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
Those pools are a part of the fountain, so I would tag the whole area as a fountain. The part where the water comes out, and the pool are one entity, one doesn't have any use without the other. Janko Mihelić 2012/10/1 Ronnie Soak chaoschaos0...@googlemail.com Hi, recently someone mapped

Re: [Tagging] Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»

2012-10-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/10/12 Eric Sibert courr...@eric.sibert.fr - a narrow bridge i.e. you can't cross a vehicle in opposite direction. We may use width=* but it is difficult to get it precisely. obstacle=narrowness It's slightly offtopic, but wouldn't it be logical to use car as a non accurate unit of

Re: [Tagging] Narrow Bridge (was: Reconstructing «Dificult passability» proposal to «Obstacle»)

2012-10-13 Thread Janko Mihelić
Well, car as a unit of road width can be used with the lanes tag. If it catches on it can be put as a proposal. I don't like the lanes tag where there are no lines on the street, it misses the point. Janko 2012/10/13 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com Eric, The English version did say that at

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – Dynamic maxspeed

2012-10-15 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maxspeed is always variable, because you have to adjust your speed according to road conditions (snow, fog, traffic). Signals just make that visible, but it is always there, even without the signals. The only thing I would map is the maximal value the sign can show and put it in the maxspeed tag.

Re: [Tagging] Standard for external links to location based services

2012-10-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/10/18 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com Ideally yes - but keep in mind that not all amenities are mapped, and not a lot (-- euphemism) of them have the opening hours. Of course, this shouldn't stop us from thinking about tagging that. Mapping all 24/7 pharmacies, bakeries,

[Tagging] Fuel, additional tags

2012-11-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
it's own color for a fuel that has some tax breaks [1]. Do we tag it fuel:diesel:blue=yes for Croatia, fuel:diesel:red=yes for Spain, fuel:diesel:black=yes for Greece? I think that is ok. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_dyes Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Fuel, additional tags

2012-11-12 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana ponedjeljak, 12. studenoga 2012., korisnik John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com je napisao: Given that the color of dye used varies by country, and may, in some locations, include fuel used for construction equipment as well as agricultural equipment, marked diesel seems like the best term

Re: [Tagging] Fuel, additional tags

2012-11-13 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dana utorak, 13. studenoga 2012., korisnik Malcolm Herring malcolm.herr...@btinternet.com je napisao: Janko, as to your first question, a suitable tag is that used by OpenSeaMap: seamark:type=small_craft_facility seamark:small_craft_facility:category=fuel_station This tag is applied to a

Re: [Tagging] Money transfer agents

2012-11-19 Thread Janko Mihelić
Maybe something even wider like: service:money:transfer=yes service:money:exchange=yes (because you can exchange currencies in some banks too, not only exchange bureaus) service:money:withdraw=yes service:money:deposit_coins=yes and so on.. Janko 2012/11/19 Sébastien Pierrel

Re: [Tagging] Money transfer agents

2012-11-19 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/11/19 Pieren pier...@gmail.com Is it really the aim of a geospatial database ? You can go to the limit with this statement and say that you should only map addresses, but the fact a bank is on that address is for a different database. I think we should have tags for all things, and then

Re: [Tagging] Money transfer agents

2012-11-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
that an establishment can't transfer money (a bank for example) put the value no. It's a bit like the key building. Renderers only look for the key building and the value can be whatever. Specialized renderers can look at the value. Janko Mihelić

Re: [Tagging] Money transfer agents

2012-11-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
2012/11/20 Sébastien Pierrel sebastien.pier...@gmail.com What if the establishment can transfer money via Western union and Moneygram? service:money:transfer=Western_Union;Moneygram ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Border crossing with restrictions

2012-11-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
know it, but other people are more likely to depend on the map. I think we are far from a router that will route only locals through that border :) Such a router would have to ask you much more than car, bike or pedestrian. That's why I think a fixme=* or note=* is enough for now. Janko Mihelić

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

2012-11-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
Does something qualify as a seamark if it is visible from the sea? Maybe a visible_from_sea=yes is enough? Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Border crossing with restrictions

2012-11-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
village can go through, the router could ask are you from this village. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] POIs

2012-12-07 Thread Janko Mihelić
How would you connect POIs that have no address? Janko 2012/12/7 ael law_ence@ntlworld.com On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 03:19:42PM -0800, Dave Sutter wrote: This may be a radical suggestion for OSM but I think POIs should be removed from the map database and put in an external database. Each

Re: [Tagging] How to map an artificial ground wall?

2012-12-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
man_made=embankment, so I use that. I put two parallel ways, each in a different direction, to map the two slopes [1]. I don't know if mapnik renders barrier=embankment. Are they the same thing? [1] http://osm.org/go/0IsjeJtGC-- http://osm.org/go/0IsjeJtGC-- Janko Mihelić 2012/12/18 Enrico Mattea

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

2013-01-16 Thread Janko Mihelić
will find an example of a powerline drawn with 3 lines :) And I'm not sure if I could defend deleting those two. They are there. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013-01-17 Thread Janko Mihelić
like a shop closed for one day. When a closed:until comes to an end, a bot could delete them automatically. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Powerlines underground

2013-01-17 Thread Janko Mihelić
levitating at 1m below surface to 3km under sea floor. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013-01-17 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/17 Steve Doerr doerr.step...@gmail.com Would this fit the bill: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/temporary ? Yes, temporary:access=no is the same as my closed=yes tag. And the ability to put more tags behind temporary: is quite handy. Closed restaurants could be

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013-01-17 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/17 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com Sometimes a business ends up being closed for renovations or repairs for much longer than expected. One McDonalds restaurant here in Nashville, TN, USA closed temporarily over a year ago due to a fire. It is still closed, and still not repaired,

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013-01-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/18 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com Also, I think showing a non-operating restaurant on a map is at least 20x as bad as not showing an open one. That's for a mapper to decide. Local mappers know best if a restaurant is likely to open soon or stay like that forever. amenity=restaurant

Re: [Tagging] business closed for renovation - tagging best practice

2013-01-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/18 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com it is similar to what others do with disused:amenity=restaurant (prefixes to prevent applications to get it wrong --- they simply won't get it at all). (IIRR, taginfo search is down at the moment). Maybe disused:xxx=yyy could be used for

Re: [Tagging] Kids use a sled downhill

2013-01-20 Thread Janko Mihelić
I suggest piste:type=sled + piste:difficulty=novice http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ski Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-21 Thread Janko Mihelić
Yes, power=station is starting to get deprecated status. If it were me, I would deprecate it right away on the wiki. Problem is, it is still used quite a lot. Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Follow-up on Time Domains

2013-01-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
It shouldn't be too hard to make a JOSM add-on that converts 3 letters into 2. So that's no problem. How about those time domains? Could we use them to map temporary closed roads? Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] wiki building=hangar

2013-01-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/23 Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de Do we need that? Are there examples, where we need building:use? I agree, building:use=* is redundant. As I understand it, building=xxx means the building is built, and looks like a xxx. It says nothing about it's use. Janko Mihelić

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
the facility. Wouldn't it be better to enumerate all voltages that are in use in that station? Something like voltage=110;35;10 Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
is Transformatorenstation? There is no logical reason, because power station is a power plant in English. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
. This will hopefully include correcting misspelled tags. I agree. We could add the tag power=substation to the wiki and patiently wait for mappers to adopt it. And in a few years, we could do to power=sub_station what we are doing now to power=station :) Janko Mihelić

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
substation. If the area of the power=sub_station is bigger than 60m2, then it is probably a high voltage substation. I think that is much better than to force the mapper layman to decide. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/27 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com OK, but then they would have to map this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mamboman/448479749/ and this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rene-germany/5723334544/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/zarner01/6899597110/ with the same tags. Why not

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/27 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com If you have a closer look you will find that there are lots of different types for substations, e.g. transmission substations, distribution substations, collector substations, converter substations, switching substations, etc. Voltage is

Re: [Tagging] Giant river multipolygons

2013-01-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
At the moment the no big relations and no big areas rules go directly against the one feature in osm for one real world feature. I think those first two rules should be solved with more code. Maybe get a feature to osm api to crop the gigantic areas and other relations when downloading, defined by

Re: [Tagging] Giant river multipolygons

2013-01-29 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/29 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com The Danube river is perfectly adequately made whole by looking for name:en=Danube. Get the computer to do the work, not mappers. What if there is a little river Danube, somewhere in Ohio? I guess other tags like wikipedia=de:Donau

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-01-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
a road (and in case of Ponte Vecchio, it supports a footway and houses) But tunnel isn't a building, so maybe man_made=tunnel? I like this better than relations too. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-01-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
the tag bridge=yes from roads that have the bridge area around them. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-01-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
that change the height. So we can agree to put in the maximum height the bridge has, or nothing. I see no other solution. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-01-31 Thread Janko Mihelić
that this could deserve it's own type=bridge (instead of type=building) tag for a relation. It would help renderers make unique rules for rendering bridges. We could put specialized tags on piers like pier:top=arch, pier:top:width=3, or who knows what else. Janko Mihelić

Re: [Tagging] Tunnels and bridges

2013-02-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
-- because the street outgrows the bridge area. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-03 Thread Janko Mihelić
or trains (use ticket:admission=* on relations with type=bus or type=train). As for parking, you just tag it with fee=no, and maybe capacity=*, and that should be enough for routers to find a parking nearby. No relations needed there. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
the same operator and you put operator=* on everything that is operated by them. Again, relations are not categories.http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations_are_not_categories Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
ex5bGgsahx4DGpceDxLHHhcWRx4fHoMeKx6LFu0rEqsepx6vGvjxixYN4LcW1xKUge3vIgW94fX3HrMagL8iFecaBPMSwY3Vyc8SVxpHFucW7xb15LcaYZMe-xawvxa7FsMWoPMSvxLN0xp4c=BMTyHuuaoOR And I put a few resort=L'Auberson tags just to check the script. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Re : Ski resort (once again)

2013-02-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
JxovGjcaPx5jGk8aVxpfGmcabxrnHqcagxqLGpMeuxqfEscaqxqxlxq7Fu0zEsSBGxKpyZ3PHuMaCxrvGvca_xKDHgceDx4XHh8eJx5DHjciSx4_HqceRZceTx5XHl8aSx5rFvsedb8efyI3Fs8ejx7LIo8W_xrrHq8ajx63GpsaMc8aOxpDGksaUxq_GmHLGmsacx6HHqse7yLHFu8aoyIAgxq3Gr0xhIFNlaWdux6DIrsiVyJHFtsiUxr3HiMi-PMiZxKHHkMeSx5THlsekxbrHpsecx57JkMicyKrIosmix6jIjsivx7zIssewyLbFuci4x7XIu8e3yL7HusesxqXJgse_csaryYXIgsavSsSqyY7JpcmryZLHo8mVx4bJl8iYx47JnMieyZ7Iocelx5vIpcinx4rJmcWuxbDFqDzEr8SzdMaec=BMUATY7s5NR Janko Mihelić

Re: [Tagging] Power transmission refinement proposal

2013-02-11 Thread Janko Mihelić
. That would solve a majority of big substations. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
, don't map it. Janko Mihelić 2013/2/21 A.Pirard.Papou a.pirard.pa...@gmail.com Hello world, It can happen for a hiking route, maybe others, to go across a non-way. One may for example get people across some land without a path or officially start and end a hike in the middle of a parking

Re: [Tagging] As the crow flies

2013-02-23 Thread Janko Mihelić
through. Hiking renderers could render them as possible routes which aren't paths. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
as wikidata is more data oriented. I would like to see what you guys think about it. Janko Mihelić ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/2/27 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com It's worth menitioning that Wikidata is still very new. How stable are the IDs? Any policies around them? Steve Wikidata is pretty new, but it is already deployed on Hungarian, Hebrew, Italian, and English Wikipedias. Deployed means that

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/2/27 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com What is the relation between wikidata and wikipedia? Couldn't one get the wikidata-reference code by looking up the wikipedia article name? In this case it would be an unnecessary duplication of information to also have a wikidata tag.

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/2/27 Pieren pier...@gmail.com Tag operator:wikidata=Q38076 much better than operator=McDonalds ?! Are you all so disconnected from real contributors ? Real contributors can continue to write operator tags. I'm always for making it easier for the mapper. But why not help developers once

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/2/27 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Still, why wikidata if you can use wikipedia? Imagine a data consumer that wants to list all McDonalds in the World. If he would try to go by wikipedia tag, he should search for de:McDonald's, en:McDonalds, hak:Ma̍k-tông-lò Kûng-sṳ̂,

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/2/27 Pieren pier...@gmail.com On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: About McDonalds or McDonald's, define the standard value, call XAPI/overpass or keepright/osmose to find them and fix the wrong values with JOSM. It takes 2 minutes and the

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/2/27 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Yes, but the wikidata ID does not help in this case. McDonald's Corp. is not the same as McDonald's Deutschland Inc., you can find information about this in the German page, but not in other languages. As long as wikidata only links to

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-02-27 Thread Janko Mihelić
to link to wikidata, but it doesn't help: Neither it does make live easier for mappers nor it reduces errors in the data. With tool support (as you propose) it might work, but without - and that's now the case - it's useless. It's useful for data consumers. Janko Mihelić

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-03-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/3/1 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com The problem is that wikipedia is not a database about companies, it is an encyclopedia where it doesn't necessarily make sense to have a distinct article for every business, and this doesn't seem to be overridden by the wikidata concept (as

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-03-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/3/1 John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com One issue with using officially-issued ID numbers (I assume that a VAT number is a Value-Added Tax number assigned by the UK government) is that there is no world-wide registry guaranteeing that the IDs are unique. A given ID might mean one

Re: [Tagging] Wikidata tag

2013-03-01 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/3/1 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com it will answer the question who operates them. For grouping them you can look for brand, name, operator, and maybe more tags if you want to find them all, I prefer brand in this case. In what language do you suggest we write this in? For

Re: [Tagging] Historic huts

2013-03-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/3/28 Andreas Labres l...@lab.at Don't tag for the renderer! amenity=shelter by itself renders. Only tag it as a tourism=attraction if it /is/ a tourism attraction. Tourism=attraction is quite an ambiguous tag. What is attractive to tourists? Who decides that? I think that's more of a

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] Crossroad names

2013-03-28 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/3/28 Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com Hi! There is a proposal to group together parts of a junction: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway%3Djunction A relation is total overkill for such a simple task. I saw this proposal before and I liked it. Now I like

Re: [Tagging] bicycle-only crossings

2013-04-10 Thread Janko Mihelić
If the cycleways coming to the crossing are tagged as foot=no, then why does the crossing have to be tagged with access tags? Janko 2013/4/10 Alberto albertoferra...@fastwebnet.it I've tagged some cycle crossing drawn as a single node with highway=crossing, foot=no and bicycle=yes. I would

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (highway=bicyle_crossing)

2013-04-18 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think highway=crossing + foot=no + bicycle=designated is enough. Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] New Proposal

2013-05-02 Thread Janko Mihelić
The first example should be resolved with tagging lanes, as seen in this link: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes#Motorway The second one could use this proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/lanes_General_Extension I'm not sure if the two tagging schemes are

Re: [Tagging] tagging cannons

2013-06-04 Thread Janko Mihelić
Disused=yes for non functional cannons and disused=no for functional ones sounds good to me. Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] leisure=swimming_pool for the pool or the complex?

2013-07-22 Thread Janko Mihelić
leisure=swimming_pool renders blue on mapnik, so it was probably mostly used for the actual pools. Janko 2013/7/22 SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk Bryce Nesbitt wrote: After reading http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**

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